Ted Leung wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > The merits of the particular proposal aside
> > We should always be judging the merits of each proposal. > > Failing to do so might well be part of the problem. > How is this possible when any other PMC can vote to bring a project > in without approval of the incubator PMC? Just look at the raft of > projects being brought in via Geronimo and the WS PMC. There's not > a thing I can do, regardless of the merits. The only thing I can say > is whether or not their community is good enough to merit graduation. When I say "We", above, I meant the ASF. All of the PMCs have a responsibility to the Foundation. But are you going to say that the Incubator PMC should be judging the performance of the other PMCs in living up to their obligations? > > And we require disclaimers and clear notice that projects ARE in > > the Incubator. Look at how the folks are complaining that we > > are trying to make the projects look different by being in the > > Incubator. They ARE different. And they MUST be Incubator > > branded, and follow Incubation rules. > Most people in the world are unaware of the difference between an > incubated project and an Apache project. And we have to correct that lack of awareness. > Roy has also stated that once a project is in the incubator it > ought to be regarded as an Apache project. I wouldn't take Roy's comment out of context. I don't believe that he means it the way that you imply above. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]