Roy T. Fielding <fielding <at> gbiv.com> writes: > I have been helpful for the past ten years and have seen nothing > but intentional obstruction from the FSF. Think about that.
Roy, I have thought about that, and, speaking for myself, I'd like to thank you for being helpful for the past ten years. I would appreciate it very much if you'd continue being helpful, and continue showing respect for your fellow developers, as that is one of the things Apache is about[1] and one of things I find interesting about it. I have some trouble understanding the sublicensing provision of the Apache license v2, and I believe you were one of the persons drafting it, so I hope you can help me understand it better. >From ASL2: [...] "Work" shall mean the work of authorship, whether in Source or Object form, made available under the License, as indicated by a copyright notice that is included in or attached to the work (an example is provided in the Appendix below). [...] 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, each Contributor hereby grants to You a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable copyright license to reproduce, prepare Derivative Works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute the Work and such Derivative Works in Source or Object form. I'd like to sublicense all of ASF's ASL2 licensed Works in Source form and distribute those sublicensed Works to others under a GPL2/LGPL/ASL2 triple license (like Mozilla) on, say, cowgirls.kaffe.org. Is that fine with the ASL2? My impression is that the ASF explicitely wants to allow people to sublicense ASF's Works under a single, different license, to allow for use in more restrictively licensed software. In my case it's the GPL, so I believe that should be as fine, as any use by IBM or Sun in some of their proprietary products, for example, Are the provisions of the section 4 supposed to be transitive, i.e. to apply to all steps in the distribution chain, or not? Afaict, the requirement to carry around the Apache License is lost after I pass my sublicensed GPL2/ASL2 version on to others, as they can chose to accept the GPL and not carry the additional ASL around when they redistribute further. The patent retaliation would seem to only concern me (yeah right, I live in Europe anyway ;), but as long as I do not sue people for patents, I have my own license to use, and those that received the Works from me are protected by the liberal provisions of the GPL, that remain in force despite the termination provisions of the ASL, if my recepients chose the GPL, as GPL does not know the concept of patent termination. Would it be possible to fix the small bug in the ASL2 this way? cheers, dalibor topic [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#what-is-apache-about --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]