Mark Wielaard wrote:

I'll make sure I talk to one of the FSF legal people again to make sure there is progress in these discussions. Some people are setting up a new teleconference between the ASF and FSF to talk about these issues more directly.

The lengthy set of teleconferences we have been having have been somewhat... inconclusive.


It is my hope that the harmony proposal accelerates that process. Preferably with an answer that we all like. But if not - at some point even an answer that we don't like is better than lingering unanswered open questions.

I'd also like to point out that we are not at that point yet. Not even close. Apache incubation can be a fairly long process, particularly for proposals such as this one.

This is still a lot of room for optimism.

Concrete questions to help focus the discussion:

  * Can ClassPath use APR?
  * Can Harmony use ClassPath?

- Sam Ruby

P.S. I still believe that we all would be best served if the meta-harmony discussions were moved to the harmony mailing lists, reporting back as appropriate as we come to conclusions, but sometimes it doesn't make sense to argue with a herd of elephants.


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