Tim, The PRC is responsible for setting ASF-wide policy regarding permissible marketing. AFAIK, we do insist that all materials using the name Apache in conjunction with an incubator project include the disclaimer, but let's move this over to the PRC list.
--- Noel -----Original Message----- From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 22:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Beehive marketing BEA has a very public marketing campaign around Apache Beehive, and I'm not saying this is a bad thing per se. It is good to see BEA is so involved with Beehive, and I hope it takes off, but it seems a little presumptious to advertise for "Apache Beehive" when the project is not yet incubated. I also understand that BEA developers have little say as to what BEA's advertising dept schedule is. But, I thought one of the original things about the incubator was that you were not allowed to call it "Apache X" until the project was officially associated with the ASF (i.e. Incubated). I remember a year ago someone talking about how a project wasn't officially associated with the ASF until you made it past all the hurdles. I'm only bringing this up within the context of a previous discussion about trademarks and how we were encouraging people to call things by official names (i.e. discourage the deprecated "Jakarta Struts" if favor of "Apache Struts"). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]