> Perhaps a practical solution here is to strongly encourage mature
> projects to remain entirely outside the Apache infrastructure during
> this period. That allows them to continue functioning as a mature
> project, and not in any way be hindered by the move until such time as
> there is a recognizable benefit to moving.

I assume the xmlbeans project would an example of a mature project moving into 
incubation.  From my perspective the incubation period IN apache has been critical.  
Getting the source into apache, the licensing, the website, the build processes, the 
apache community norms, establishing the community in apache, etc all needed to be 
done for us and IMO going into apache as a project provided a focus that would not 
have been possible outside.  I would think many *mature* projects would need this time 
to figure things out, get help from the incubator team, and them move over into the 
appropriate part of apache.

rem


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