On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 18:33, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > There is no reason for a project to have a final destination until > it has to go somewhere other than incubator, at which point it can > decide whether it wants to be a TLP (calling for a board vote) or > part of an existing project (calling for that project's pmc to vote). > Maybe we should have a six month limit on incubation, where the > result is promote or punt. > > We have no way to measure the worthiness of a project before it has > even started
- test coverage - clarity of documentation - established user base And those are three criterion that can easily be measured and I think that is a good start. Something that's far easier to pinpoint than the vague term "community". The three above listed criterion are things that can easily be faked. Tapestry satisfied these quite easily. > , and generally speaking we are MUCH MUCH MUCH better off > if a project gets started in Apache rather than on sourceforge. How so? I'm genuinely interested in why you think so. > I don't care if there is some overlap with Wagon, nor do I care for > any further discussion about which one is better -- if I can't find > some objective criteria for evaluating software, then I obviously > don't need that software. Once I need it, I can figure out for myself > which one is better -- I don't need someone to assume that for me. > It is easier for Apache to support both projects than to arbitrarily > choose between the two. It wouldn't bother me at all for other projects to come here that are overlapping partially or completely that's not my point. My point is the incubator shouldn't be a source code limbo. How did the decision come about that a complete path for incubation not be requisite as part of a proposal? Didn't the incubator start with Tapestry in which successful incubation meant the movement to a final destination? So theoretically, given the current situation, any number of codebases could land here and sit indefinitely? That we are actually encouraging people to use Apache's incubator as an alternative to SourceForge? > ....Roy > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tambora.zenplex.org In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it. -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
