Update to my comment:
The OpenSAML proponents took the comments received here and formed the constructive action of emailing RSA about
addressing our concerns and are waiting for a reply ;-). It appears like they're keeping their eye on the ball.
Better?
-Andy
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
FYI, Here's the message that i sent to Rob @ RSA on Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:38:57 -0800 (PST). No reply from him yet. I HAVE NOT DROPPED IT YET...
--- Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:38:57 -0800 (PST) From: Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: IPR for SAML / OpenSAML @ Apache To: "Philpott, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 'Scott Cantor' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rob,
Looks like the consensus at Apache is NOT to accept a project (including OpenSAML) if our
customers have to get a separate license from RSA to be able to actually use the stuff.
Is there something RSA could do with Apache to further development and accpetance of these
technologies? My direct dial is 508-628-XXXX if you want to chat a bit.
Sample email with negative sentiments: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=104670503431392&w=2
Full Discussion: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=OpenSAML&q=b
Thanks, dims
--- "Philpott, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Dims,
I apologize for the delayed response - I've been catching up after vacation.
We (RSA) are in the process of finalizing the licensing terms. Please
remember that nothing is ever final until the lawyers sign off, so interpret
what I say with that in mind.
I'll be posting an updated statement of intent to the OASIS web site shortly. I'll hopefully be able to make the final license available at that time as well. I assure you there are NO plans to change our intent to offer licensing on an RF/RAND basis.
I'm currently waiting on final approval from our legal dept, which I expect in a few days. Unfortunately, since we're going RF on this license, it understandably drops down in the priority list behind revenue-generating work items on their plate.
w.r.t Toolkits - The approach we are taking is that toolkit vendors need to acquire a license and the toolkit vendor simply needs to notify users of the toolkit that they need to contact RSA to obtain a license. The notification can take the form of a message displayed when downloading the toolkit or perhaps text in a readme file.
I hope this helps explain the situation. If you believe that our position will inhibit the decision to move forward, please let me know and we can have some further discussions.
Stay tuned and feel free to post my response to the incubator-general list.
Rob Philpott RSA Security Inc. The Most Trusted Name in e-Security Tel: 781-515-7115 Mobile: 617-510-0893 Fax: 781-515-7020 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message----- From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:00 PM To: Philpott, Robert Subject: IPR for SAML / OpenSAML @ Apache
Robert,
I was looking at your emails to the OASIS (http://www.oasis- open.org/committees/security/) wanted to ask for your opinion and help.
We have a propsal from OpenSAML/Apache folks for a new project at apache for SAML seeded by code from OpenSAML group. (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?OpenSAMLProposal).
We are really concerned about viability of such a project because of RSA's IPR claims. See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&w=2&r=1&s=OpenSAML&q=b for discussions.
Can you please help?
Thanks, dims
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