On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +1100, Conor MacNeill wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:33 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The Incubator project needs to take a proactive role in ensuring that new > > projects are brought to Apache the right way, not just be an extra helper. > > This means documentation, processes to be followed etc. > > I have to agree. AFAICT, accepting subprojects in the raison d'etre of the > Incubator. I was surprised by the statement that the incubator does not want > subprojects. IIRC, the board has said that all subprojects must come through > the incubator. If it's just a cork, what's the point of it?
We have had *numerous* problems in the past with code arriving in the CVS repository *without* the proper legal footwork. In my mind, that is the primary reason for the Incubator -- to ensure that the ASF has right and title to all arriving code. >From a legal standpoint, the Incubator was created to ensure that we had our i's dotted and t's crossed. Beyond that, I have little opinion. IMO, the Incubator is more about process and checklists, than warm fuzzies and "teaching about the community". Docco on the community, its expections, and the ASF culture should be provided by the Incubator to *ALL* of the ASF, not just those projects which are arriving. The culture is all of the ASF, and the entire ASF participates; there are a lot of things that new committers to existing projects need to learn. Not just the committers arriving via the incubated projects. Constructive criticism of the day: establish the checklist, get projects signed off, and move 'em along. Very objective, and very satisfying to those involved. But to call it a failure? That's too harsh. I think there are certainly problems in the basic model. You have a bunch of highly-motivated people associated with incoming projects. On the "other side of the fence" you have a bunch of unrelated volunteers. It's a recipe for status quo. With a more limited mission, and an objective progress meter, then the Incubator is about verifying process rather than needing to participate. There is a definite need for the Incubator, but I think the people who advocated it as a "community builder" need to reassess that concept. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
