On 01/23/2013 08:43 PM, Richard Biener wrote:

Ah, well - the old issue that LLVM has just become a very good
marketing machinery
(and we've stayed at being a compiler - heh).

The problem of being on a compiler-only list is that this is becoming a self-evident truth.

However, as a meteorologist, I know better (HAH :-))

WRF (http://www.wrf-model.org/index.php) is our eternal Nemesis. It's a free weather forecasting model and data assimilation system developed by the best US academic institutions.

"WRF has a rapidly growing community of users, and workshops and tutorials are held each year at NCAR. WRF is currently in operational use at NCEP, AFWA and other centers."

So it is hopeless to fight it. It is free (our European-community-developed model is not) and it has a *huge* backing from the US academic community.

Unfortunately for this virtual reality, it doesn't match the real one. We do still exist, and there is no indication (on the basis of meteorological verification) that we will be dethroned shortly.

And yes, we understand why academia is mad with WRF - we *do* understand why they like to have their students play with it (it is much *easier*) - that doesn't mean that a focused course can't make students resident at KNMI (the Dutch Meteorological Institute) familiar enough with *our* weather model to work on it.

Don't get your nickers in a twist (as we would say in the seventies).

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