On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis > <g...@integrable-solutions.net> wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis >>> <g...@integrable-solutions.net> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:30 AM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis >>>>> <g...@integrable-solutions.net> wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek <ja...@redhat.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Shooting down a potentially user friendly feature to wait until some >>>>>>> blue >>>>>>> sky redesign is implemented means it might never be implemented. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a mischaracterization and you know it. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Gaby >>>>> >>>>> It is and it isn't. The guy willing to do the basic color stuff has >>>>> no desire to do what you want. Is there someone else lined up to do >>>>> it? If not, then forcing a wait on it effectively blocks the >>>>> available developer. >>>> >>>> No. When you submit a patch to GCC (whether it is diagnostics or not >>>> is immaterial), you expect that it will get reviewed and recommendations >>>> will be made about the appropriate way to get it done. Just have a look >>>> at gcc-patches. There is no thing new here. If the submitter >>>> refused to follow the recommendations, it is unfair it is being shut down >>>> or blocked. >>> >>> Be that as it may, at the end of the day, we won't have color gcc if >>> you insist on waiting for the better framework. >> >> Not necessarily. >> >> Would you or Jakub say that he is attempting to shoot down the switch to C++, >> just because he wants to see some components converted done first >> (blue sky redesigned done first) even though he did not explicitly offer to >> do that conversion himself, or would you say that he is making a >> recommendation >> of what he considers to be in the best long term interest. I would >> say the latter. >> Orange and apple analogy aside. >> >> >> -- Gaby > > Ok, fine, but then explain to me how color gcc happens if nobody wants > to do the extra work you want?
when you said "Ok, fine", which of the two alternatives did you intend? -- Gaby