On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis
> <g...@integrable-solutions.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis
>>> <g...@integrable-solutions.net> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:30 AM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis
>>>>> <g...@integrable-solutions.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek <ja...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shooting down a potentially user friendly feature to wait until some 
>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>> sky redesign is implemented means it might never be implemented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a mischaracterization and you know it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Gaby
>>>>>
>>>>> It is and it isn't.  The guy willing to do the basic color stuff has
>>>>> no desire to do what you want.  Is there someone else lined up to do
>>>>> it?  If not, then forcing a wait on it effectively blocks the
>>>>> available developer.
>>>>
>>>> No. When you submit a patch to GCC (whether it is diagnostics or not
>>>> is immaterial), you expect that it will get reviewed and recommendations
>>>> will be made about the appropriate way to get it done.  Just have a look
>>>> at gcc-patches.  There is no thing new here.  If the submitter
>>>> refused to follow the recommendations, it is unfair it is being shut down
>>>> or blocked.
>>>
>>> Be that as it may, at the end of the day, we won't have color gcc if
>>> you insist on waiting for the better framework.
>>
>> Not necessarily.
>>
>> Would you or Jakub say that he is attempting to shoot down the switch to C++,
>> just  because he wants to see some components converted done first
>> (blue sky redesigned done first) even though he did not explicitly offer to
>> do that conversion himself, or would  you say that he is making a
>> recommendation
>> of what he considers to be in  the best long term interest. I would
>> say the latter.
>> Orange and apple analogy aside.
>>
>>
>> -- Gaby
>
> Ok, fine, but then explain to me how color gcc happens if nobody wants
> to do the extra work you want?

when you said "Ok, fine", which of the two alternatives did you intend?

-- Gaby

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