Dan, Thanks for the detailed reply on the python-dev mailing list. I had a feeling we would run into resistance on this (otherwise these issues would have been already fixed). That's why discussions like the "gcc trunk vs python" thread can be useful even though they are off-topic to the list. Once the issue have been throughly discussed for one package, we can always just reference the thread for other package maintainers who have reservations about the necessity of conforming to gcc's strict adherence to standards. Jack