--- Kai Ruottu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, Jonathan, if you need to get a knife (glibc) for >producing your own hammer (gcc), just ask someone to >give that knife and produce your own hammer first with >that borrowed knife. And then produce your own knife >using your self-made hammer and later the final hammer >with your self-made knife... After customizing your >hammer and knife many times you soon forget how on >earth you managed to get the first hammer and knife >and what the heck, who even cares about that !
I agree with you completely. Ok, does anyone have a MIPS64 binary of glibc that they could run me a copy of? Actually, as you'll see later in my post, a copy of binutils would be better, as that seems to be where the MIPS board is suffering the most problems. I -think- I need a chisel, as well, though. On producing the bootstrap GCC cross-compiler, trying to compile with it produces the error that it can't find crti.o, crtn.o or crt1.o. IIRC, these are produced when compiling GCC, but the GCC in CVS does not have the source file for crt1.c for MIPS, does not compile crti.c by default and the assembler choked on crtn.o I do have old versions of these files on the native MIPS64 environment, so it does depend a litte on whether these files have changed significantly or not. I can build a cross-assembler with no problems. That part isn't a problem. The problem is that the compiler and assembler on the MIPS board are broken and won't compile a binutils tarball or a copy fresh from CVS. (The installed linker is rejecting object files produced by the installed assembler as invalid, and the installed assembler is rejecting assembly files in GCC as invalid.) The approach I've been following is to say "Ok, the tools on the board are compiling some things but not others - it would be best to replace them with something reliable. Commercial binaries seem to be all ancient, so it looks as though I'll need to do SOME rolling of my own, at least. If I can build a functional cross-compiler, I can use that to build a native compiler, which I can then move over and build what I need - treat it as a blank system, since I have no pre-installed code I can trust and no obvious repositories I can use to grab binaries from." I've been wanting to do a "roll-your-own" partly because I'm a stubborn SOB, partly because I can then tune it to the precise environment and partly because if I can't build a toolchain because of missing/uncompiled files, then there's a bug in the code or a bug in the method, either of which is important to know and fix. (There's also a lot to do with the fact that I actually enjoy building things from source when I can. It's just a pain in the neck when either the instructions are out of date OR there is unintended behaviour. Oh, this sort of level of development will never be on the same level as building an Airfix model, but the parts should all be there and the glue shouldn't run off with the table leg.) Jonathan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com