On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 14:57, Christophe Lyon
<christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 15:12, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Christophe Lyon
>> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 12:59, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 20:31, Christophe Lyon
>> >> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Some targets like arm-eabi with newlib and default settings rely on
>> >> > __sync_synchronize() to ensure synchronization.  Newlib does not
>> >> > implement it by default, to make users aware they have to take special
>> >> > care.
>> >> >
>> >> > This makes a few tests fail to link.
>> >>
>> >> Does this mean those features are unusable on the target, or just that
>> >> users need to provide their own __sync_synchronize to use them?
>> >
>> >
>> > IIUC the user is expected to provide them.
>> > Looks like we discussed this in the past :-)
>> > In  https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc-patches/2016-10/msg01632.html,
>> > see the pointer to Ramana's comment: 
>> > https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-05/msg02751.html
>>
>> Oh yes, thanks for the reminder!
>>
>> >
>> > The default arch for arm-eabi is armv4t which is very old.
>> > When running the testsuite with something more recent (either as default 
>> > by configuring GCC --with-arch=XXX or by forcing -march/-mcpu via 
>> > dejagnu's target-board), the compiler generates barrier instructions and 
>> > there are no such errors.
>>
>> Ah yes, that's fine then.
>>
>> > For instance, here is a log with the defaults:
>> > https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/ci/base-artifacts/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-arm_eabi.git/tree/00-sumfiles?h=linaro-local/ci/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-arm_eabi
>> > and a log when we target cortex-m0 which is still a very small cpu but has 
>> > barriers:
>> > https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/ci/base-artifacts/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-thumb_m0_eabi.git/tree/00-sumfiles?h=linaro-local/ci/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-thumb_m0_eabi
>> >
>> > I somehow wanted to get rid of such errors with the default 
>> > configuration....
>>
>> Yep, that makes sense, and we'll still be testing them for newer
>> arches on the target, so it's not completely disabling those parts of
>> the testsuite.
>>
>> But I'm still curious why some of those tests need this change. I
>> think the ones I noted below are probably failing for some other
>> reasons.
>>
> Just looked at  23_containers/span/back_assert_neg.cc, the linker says it 
> needs
> arm-eabi/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs/libstdc++.a(debug.o) to resolve
> ./back_assert_neg-back_assert_neg.o (std::__glibcxx_assert_fail(char const*, 
> int, char const*, char const*))
> and indeed debug.o has a reference to __sync_synchronize

Aha, that's just because I put __glibcxx_assert_fail in debug.o, but
there are no dependencies on anything else in that file, including the
_M_detach member function that uses atomics.

This would also be solved by -Wl,--gc-sections :-)

I think it would be better to move __glibcxx_assert_fail to a new
file, so that it doesn't make every assertion unnecessarily depend on
__sync_synchronize. I'll do that now.

We could also make the atomics in debug.o conditional, so that debug
mode doesn't depend on __sync_synchronize for single-threaded targets.
Does the arm4t arch have pthreads support in newlib?  I didn't bother
making the use of atomics conditional, because performance is not
really a priority for debug mode bookkeeping. But the problem here
isn't just a slight performance overhead of atomics, it's that they
aren't even supported for arm4t.

Reply via email to