On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Igor Zamyatin <izamya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Andrey Belevantsev <a...@ispras.ru> wrote:
>> On 12.04.2012 16:38, Richard Guenther wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Igor Zamyatin<izamya...@gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Richard Guenther
>>>> <richard.guent...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Alexander Monakov<amona...@ispras.ru>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can atom execute two IMUL in parallel?  Or what exactly is the
>>>>>>> pipeline
>>>>>>> behavior?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I understand from Intel's optimization reference manual, the
>>>>>> behavior is as
>>>>>> follows: if the instruction immediately following IMUL has shorter
>>>>>> latency,
>>>>>> execution is stalled for 4 cycles (which is IMUL's latency); otherwise,
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 4-or-more cycles latency instruction can be issued after IMUL without a
>>>>>> stall.
>>>>>> In other words, IMUL is pipelined with respect to other long-latency
>>>>>> instructions, but not to short-latency instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to be modeled in the pipeline description though:
>>>>>
>>>>> ;;; imul insn has 5 cycles latency
>>>>> (define_reservation "atom-imul-32"
>>>>>                    "atom-imul-1, atom-imul-2, atom-imul-3, atom-imul-4,
>>>>>                     atom-port-0")
>>>>>
>>>>> ;;; imul instruction excludes other non-FP instructions.
>>>>> (exclusion_set "atom-eu-0, atom-eu-1"
>>>>>               "atom-imul-1, atom-imul-2, atom-imul-3, atom-imul-4")
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The main idea is quite simple:
>>>>
>>>> If we are going to schedule IMUL instruction (it is on the top of
>>>> ready list) we try to find out producer of other (independent) IMUL
>>>> instruction that is in ready list too. The goal is try to schedule
>>>> such a producer to get another IMUL in ready list and get scheduling
>>>> of 2 successive IMUL instructions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why does that not happen without your patch?  Does it never happen without
>>> your patch or does it merely not happen for one EEMBC benchmark (can
>>> you provide a testcase?)?
>>
>>
>> It does not happen because the scheduler by itself does not do such specific
>> reordering.  That said, it is easy to imagine the cases where this patch
>> will make things worse rather than better.
>>
>> Igor, why not try different subtler mechanisms like adjust_priority, which
>> is get called when an insn is added to the ready list?  E.g. increase the
>> producer's priority.
>>
>> The patch as is misses checks for NONDEBUG_INSN_P.  Also, why bail out when
>> you have more than one imul in the ready list?  Don't you want to bump the
>> priority of the other imul found?
>
> Could you provide some examples when this patch would harm the performance?
>
> Sched_reorder was chosen since it is used in other ports and looks
> most suitable for such case, e.g. it provides access to the whole
> ready list.
> BTW, just increasing producer's priority seems to be more risky in
> performance sense - we can incorrectly start delaying some
> instructions.
>
> Thought ready list doesn't contain DEBUG_INSN... Is it so? If it
> contains them - this could be added easily
>
> The case with more than one imul in the ready list wasn't considered
> just because the goal was to catch the particular case when there is a
> risk to get the following picture: "imul-producer-imul" which is less
> effective than "producer-imul-imul" for Atom


Actually, this constraint of one imul could be omitted. I'm going to
try this change

>
>>
>> Andrey
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> And MD allows us only prefer scheduling of successive IMUL instructions,
>>>> i.e.
>>>> If IMUL was just scheduled and ready list contains another IMUL
>>>> instruction then it will be chosen as the best candidate for
>>>> scheduling.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> at least from my very limited guessing of what the above does.  So, did
>>>>> you
>>>>> analyze why the scheduler does not properly schedule things for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From reading the patch, I could not understand the link between
>>>>>> pipeline
>>>>>> behavior and what the patch appears to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexander
>>
>>
>
> Thanks,
> Igor

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