On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 19:41, Pedro Alves <pe...@palves.net> wrote: > > On 2022-07-12 7:36 p.m., Pedro Alves wrote: > > On 2022-07-12 7:22 p.m., Jonathan Wakely wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 12 Jul 2022, 17:40 Pedro Alves, <pe...@palves.net > >> <mailto:pe...@palves.net>> wrote: > >> > >> On 2022-07-12 4:14 p.m., Jonathan Wakely wrote: > >> > >> >> So once GCC requires C++14, why would you want to preserve > >> >> once-backported symbols in a namespace other than std, when you no > >> longer have a reason to? > >> >> It will just be another unnecessary thing that newcomers at that > >> future time will have > >> >> to learn. > >> > > >> > I also don't see a problem with importing std::make_unique into > >> > namespace gcc for local use alongside other things in namespace gcc. > >> I > >> > do consider that idiomatic. It says "the make_unique for gcc code is > >> > std::make_unique". It means you only need a 'using namespace gcc;' at > >> > the top of a source file and you get access to everything in > >> namespace > >> > gcc, even if it is something like std::make_unique that was > >> originally > >> > defined in a different namespace. > >> > > >> > >> If that's the approach, then GCC should import std::unique_ptr, > >> std::move, > >> std::foo, std::bar into the gcc namespace too, no? Are you really > >> going > >> to propose that? > >> > >> > >> No, I don't follow the logic of "if you do it for one thing you must do it > >> for everything". That's a straw man. But I don't really mind how this gets > >> done. Your suggestion is fine. > >> > > > > It isn't a strawman, Jon. Maybe there's some miscommunication. The > > conversion started (and part of it is > > still quoted above), by thinking about what we'd do once we get to C++14, > > and my suggestion to optimize > > for that. When we get to the point when we require C++14, make_unique is > > no longer different from any other > > symbol in the std namespace, and there will be no reason to treat it > > differently anymore. Like, if someone at > > that point proposes to remove the global make_unique or gcc::make_unique, > > and replace all references with > > std::make_unique, there will be no real ground to object to that, why > > wouldn't you want it? This is very > > much like when you removed "gnu::unique_ptr" (not going to miss it) a few > > months back -- you replaced > > it by "std::unique_ptr"; gnu::unique_ptr wasn't kept just because of > > history. > > Sorry to reply to myself -- but I'm not sure it is clear what I meant above > in the last sentence, so let > me try again: 'the "gnu::unique_ptr" wasn't rewritten as an import of > std::unique_ptr into the gnu namespace > just because of history.'
[OFFLIST] I considered doing exactly that. But because namespace gnu wasn't used anywhere else in GCC it didn't make sense. If it had been put in namespace gcc, which is still used elsewhere in the GCC codebase, I might have decided differently. But keeping namespace 'gnu' with no content except 'using std::unique_ptr;' would have been pointless. It wouldn't have made it easier for other things in namespace gnu to refer to it, because there were no other things. It wouldn't have allowed 'using namespace gnu;' to make various useful utilities available with a single using-directive, because that would only make one thing available, and 'using std::unique_ptr;' does that just as effectively.
