Hi all, 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kumar, Venkataramanan
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:16 PM
> To: 'H.J. Lu' <hjl.to...@gmail.com>; Martin Jambor <mjam...@suse.cz>
> Cc: Nagarajan, Muthu kumar raj <muthukumarraj.nagara...@amd.com>;
> GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; Jeff Law <l...@redhat.com>; Uros
> Bizjak (ubiz...@gmail.com) <ubiz...@gmail.com>; 'Jan Hubicka'
> <j...@suse.de>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/5] x86: Add -mindirect-branch-loop=
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: H.J. Lu [mailto:hjl.to...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 7:36 PM
> > To: Martin Jambor <mjam...@suse.cz>
> > Cc: Nagarajan, Muthu kumar raj <muthukumarraj.nagara...@amd.com>;
> > Kumar, Venkataramanan <venkataramanan.ku...@amd.com>; GCC
> Patches
> > <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; Jeff Law <l...@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] x86: Add -mindirect-branch-loop=
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:38 AM, Martin Jambor <mjam...@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 11 2018, Jeff Law wrote:
> > >> On 01/07/2018 03:59 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
> > >>> Add -mindirect-branch-loop= option to control loop filler in call
> > >>> and return thunks generated by -mindirect-branch=.  'lfence' uses
> > "lfence"
> > >>> as loop filler.  'pause' uses "pause" as loop filler.  'nop' uses "nop"
> > >>> as loop filler.  The default is 'lfence'.
> > >>>
> > >>> gcc/
> > >>>
> > >>>      * config/i386/i386-opts.h (indirect_branch_loop): New.
> > >>>      * config/i386/i386.c (output_indirect_thunk): Support
> > >>>      -mindirect-branch-loop=.
> > >>>      * config/i386/i386.opt (mindirect-branch-loop=): New option.
> > >>>      (indirect_branch_loop): New.
> > >>>      (lfence): Likewise.
> > >>>      (pause): Likewise.
> > >>>      (nop): Likewise.
> > >>>      * doc/invoke.texi: Document -mindirect-branch-loop= option.
> > >>>
> > >>> gcc/testsuite/
> > >>>
> > >>>      * gcc.target/i386/indirect-thunk-loop-1.c: New test.
> > >>>      * gcc.target/i386/indirect-thunk-loop-2.c: Likewise.
> > >>>      * gcc.target/i386/indirect-thunk-loop-3.c: Likewise.
> > >>>      * gcc.target/i386/indirect-thunk-loop-4.c: Likewise.
> > >>>      * gcc.target/i386/indirect-thunk-loop-5.c: Likewise.
> > >> I think we should drop the ability to change the filler until such
> > >> time as we really need it.  Just pick one and go with it.  I think
> > >> David suggested that they wanted "pause".  I'm obviously fine with that.
> > >>
> > >
> > > unless I am mistaken (which is frankly quite possible, I am still
> > > not quite up to speed about the nuances), AMD strongly prefers the
> > > lfence variant.  OTOH, IIUC, in kernel this will be run-time patched
> > > but so it does not matter in the most pressing case and we might
> > > want to have a mechanism doing something similar for protecting
> userspace later on.
> > > But perhaps it is enough to keep the option?
> > >
> > > Muthu and/or Venkat, can you please comment?
> >
> > If we do want it, I will submit a separate patch AFTER the current
> > patch set has been approved and checked into GCC 8.
> >
> 
> As per AMD architects, using “lfence” in “retpoline” is better than “pause” 
> for
> our targets.
> So please allow filler to use "lfence".
> 
We also leant that "lfence" is a dispatch serializing instruction.  The Pause 
instruction is not serializing on AMD processors and has high latencies. 

 Regards.
 Venkat.
> > --
> > H.J.

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