> On 8 Nov 2016, at 13:39, Mike Stump <mikest...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Iain Sandoe <iain_san...@mentor.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Simple for the simple case is already part of my patch, but capability for 
>> the expert and non-simple case is also present,
> 
> I'm trying to ask a specific question, what does the patch allow that can't 
> be done otherwise?  Kinda a trivial question, and I don't see any answer.
> 
> I'm not looking for, it allows it to work, or it makes the expert case work.  
> I'm look for the specific question, and the specific information you want, 
> and why ld -v doesn't get it.

ld -v gets it when you can execute ld.
It doesn’t get it when the $host ld is not executable on $build.
Providing the option to give the version allows that without requiring the 
complexity of other (possibly valid) solutions.  If you know that you’re 
building (my patched) ld64-253.9 for powerpc-darwin9 (crossed from 
x86-64-darwin14) it’s easy, just put —with-ld64=253.9 .. 

I think we’ve debated this enough - I’m OK with keeping my extra facility 
locally and will resubmit the patch with it removed in due course,
Iain

> 
> For example, there is a host you are thinking of, there is a  build system 
> you are think of, there is a target you are thinking of.  There is a set of 
> software you have, likely a particular Xcode release.  There are binaries 
> that you might have built up for it, there might be headers you grab from 
> some place, libraries or SDKs from another place.  This might be done for 
> quick debugging a darwin problem on a linux host, but without the full 
> ability to generate a tool chain, it might be to support a full tool chain.
> 
> I want it to work, without specifying the it, doesn't let me see what problem 
> you are solving.
> 
> I read through the PR listed, and it seems to just list a typical 
> x86_64-apple-darwin12.6.0 native port.  That really isn't rocket science is 
> it?  I mean, we see the wanting from the build tools directly.  So, the 
> change isn't to support that, is it?
> 

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