2017-03-27 12:38 GMT-04:00 Fabien Bodard <gambas...@gmail.com>: > Hi Lenz, > > GambasForge was not an Community project but my own project at first. > That's why it is not conventionnal. > umm isuspect that but my hope was due the "framework" word as propaganda (i dont remenber where i read.. well whatever)
http://gambasforge.org?section=forge&action=code&id=2 > > > 'check the id value integrity > If IsInteger(Request.Get!id) Then id = Request.Get!id > If id < 1 Then Error.Raise("Invalid id.") > > ' Get the code commentary if any > tCode.Commentaires = MCode.VoirCommentaires(tCode.Id) > these part its for comments.so.? > All the site is based on a virtual html Dom Tree. That during this > period that i've begin my idea of Html tree. And then Adrien have re > writted all the stuff in C and generated the gb.xml.html component. > that's awesome.. the gb.xml module are so usefully for parsing some socket messages and emulates and webservice.. my only problem its a lack of authentication and session handler now that's the reason of the tree parsing mode of the code.. thanks for clarify... > The advantage of the tree is I can modify my header or adding some > script from every where. So for example the VoirCode function can > display Messages in the standart header. Then with the time some part > become objects like HtmlRecaptcha there are all stored in FormElements > sub directory. > that part its quite complicated for me, but dont worry i'm studing right now all the realted theme... > > > > 2017-03-27 6:01 GMT+02:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerh...@gmail.com>: > > in the more and more lack of documentation in spanish and differences > > respect others languajes (i'm not programer), triying to develop a web > page > > in gabmas (to large scale) its dificult later to mantain.. > > > > just taking a look to the gambas forge at the svn in sourceforge.. for > > people that "wants" to contribute its very tedious and in few days > interes > > are loose quickly... that's my point in the ohter mail.. > > > > i now get in understand that gambas force use many alias urls, and has 3 > > kind of parameters > > > > once its for a main section, that determines the "kind" of software (main > > page, forums, wiki or forge) > > > > second its a section of that firts.. > > > > the other i cannot understand still > > > > also, why hide the urls? and in the ide its hard to debug due the > variable > > CGI_SCRIPT are not used in the IDE, due runs in embebed server, rather > that > > the generated gforge.gambas.cgi program... > > > > or gambas its just for "great programers"? > > > > also there's so many hardcode typing urls > > > > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO) > > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com > > > > 2017-03-25 17:40 GMT-04:00 Jorge Carrión <sho...@gmail.com>: > > > >> Fabian: +1 :) > >> > >> 2017-03-25 16:51 GMT+01:00 Fabien Bodard <gambas...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > A long thought in bazaar... > >> > > >> > > >> > I think, the first job is to teach a new time to developpers how to > >> > develop. There is nothing great in the code i've sended, juste the > >> > evidence. > >> > > >> > I've start learnin coding in gwbasic and qbasic... well not the best > >> > to start. Now we have better languages like python, java, c# and > >> > i've the impression that taking one hour for making the lacking > >> > function,has become something insurmountable (in this case 10 minutes > >> > for me). > >> > > >> > In the past I had no choice, no internet, if I wanted something or if > >> > it did not exist, you had to buy it or create it (sometimes find it in > >> > a book). Honestly, today I have reproduced so much with Gambas that I > >> > think we can almost do everything. What is lacking in Gambas is > >> > documentation. Unfortunately, we do not have time to write it because > >> > we have grown up and have a lot of work now. All I can do is swing > >> > from time to time a spade on the mailing list to help the newcomers to > >> > understand the pattern of thought behind Gambas. Because I see that > >> > this is also the problem. Whether at the level of the language or at > >> > the level of the arrangement of forms, at the level of the event > >> > structure (gridview, drawingarea and many other widgets), the choices > >> > are quite innovative and destabilizing. Gambas is not there to replace > >> > or compete with other languages, it is as in kungfu there are several > >> > phylosophy and it is one among others. > >> > To summarize it is not the language in itself that must be understood, > >> > but the phylsophy of development. For the language, there is the wiki. > >> > For phylosophy ... we'll have to bend over. > >> > > >> > Benoit, had said that language was able to appreciate different types > >> > of procedural, object or event programming. But with time I realize > >> > that the object / event couple is dominant and that this is our > >> > signature somehow. > >> > > >> > Today it is a coherent mature language (despite the bugs), with > >> > coherent libraries. > >> > > >> > By experience, it is not necessary to copy a code from one language to > >> > another, but a concept. What it lacks for me would be a UML > >> > integrator, which would make it easier to manipulate the concepts of a > >> > project. > >> >  > >> > I think over time have spotted key points that make Gambas more > >> > difficult to digest for developers a bit too pampered. > >> > > >> > I will take the time to make a document for the helpers to appreciate > >> > our philosophy and allow them not to try to model the programming > >> > style of other languages in Gambas. > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > ------------------ > >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Gambas-user mailing list > >> > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> ------------------ > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gambas-user mailing list > >> Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Gambas-user mailing list > > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > > > -- > Fabien Bodard > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
