I have to agree 100% with Carl! I too have experience programming GUI's for about 15 years with VB6. I have a very small amount of Linux experience. The reason I am reading this list is that I did not like .Net and wanted to find an alternative to VB6. I found Gambas and it looked good. I managed to get (after a week of trying) a version of Linux running and got Gambas running on it. All I wanted to do was create some sample user screens to show someone my concepts. That was at least 6 months ago. The whole Linux experience was more than I had time for or wanted to suffer through. The first graphical drag/drop thing I tried to do wouldn't work with Gambas, however was not too difficult with VB6.
I don't know how to compile a new version/release of Gambas when bug fixes come out. Its far to complicated for me. If I had a few months of spare time, maybe. So I gave up, found my old copy of VB6 and was running in about an hour. I don't feel I can use VB6 for anything for a customer these days, so I am still looking for something like VB6 that I can use without needing to learn a new operating system to use it. From what I have seen, and some of the playing around with Gambas, it looks very nice and the closest I have seen to VB6. I just get very frustrated when it takes months of work to do an eight hour project. I know a lot of people will say "its not that hard" or "I did it in only four hours" but you are already knowledgeable in Linux. Tom On 1/23/2014 7:57 AM, Carl Nilsson wrote: > Tobias: > Thank you for reply. I think maybe you misunderstood a couple of > points I was trying to make. > I was not criticizing any language, particularly not Gambas. Nor was > inferring that Linux is not a great set of op. systems, one or many > of which would be of long-term advantage to a user. Switching to > Linux does however pose a early barrier that must be surmounted > before many people become comfortable with it. I have been > programming off and on for nearly 55 years, but only as a scientific > user and not a professional. I met Unix in the 1970's, but did not > continue to use it. To put VB6 onto Windows XP, I insert the CD, > click a few times, put in my keycode and it is done. Heaps and heaps > of online help, both from MS and the net. The installation process > for Gambas into Linux, plus other components gets better with time, > but is still challenging for many, including those with significant > past programming experience. > > You said it yourself: "There are also seasoned Linux users who will > appreciate Gambas > and there are youngsters whose first language Gambas may be. All the old VB6 > users _I_ have met (shortly after their switch to Linux and Gambas, > admittedly!) were really confused about the distributions' way of package > management, Gambas components, etc. and more complained about the whole > situation. I can't remember having heard from them again.". > > That's my main point. The original question was about how to ensure > the future of gambas. Maybe that's already been done by it's > intrinsic quality. However, to increase the takeup and use - and > hence continued development long into the future - you have to pay > attention to potential users and meet their requirements for > installation and maintenance. A bit more attention to nearly two > million users of a board like the RPi would not go amiss. The > BeagleBone Black creates another opportunity. Why Python and not Gambas? > Carl > >> (snip) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
