-----Original Message----- From: chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:27 PM Subject: Re: GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. >Therefore all bourgeois economists are cheaters. GDP is for the rich >to hoodwink the poor people to keep them poor. > >Poverty will not be eliminated unless we can tell the people all over >the world that GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. > >Sincerely, >Ju-chang He >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >SHENZHEN, P.R. CHINA >Welcome to My Homepage ><http://sites.netscape.net/juchang/homepage.html> > >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 9:58 PM Ron Kelly wrote: >> I agree with you -- and Chang -- on this, Spencer. In fact, correct me >>if I'm wrong, but if an environmental disaster occurs -- an oil spill, for >>example -- the GDP in that jurisdiction normally increases, doesn't it? >>That's because the resources devoted to cleaning up the spill, from private >>and/or public sources, are measured as an increase in output, expenditure, >>etc. >> Now, some may argue that all the GDP does is measure economic >>production so such additional production should be included in the GDP. >>That's fine but that's not the same thing as using that measure to claim >>that the economy is improving or, more importantly, that society is making >>progress in real terms. >> Nevertheless, as Chang originally pointed out, that's exactly what >>many right-wing governments and Big Business proponents claim. And with >>their stranglehold on the mass media and the propaganda it spews out, it's >>not surprising that many people -- including some socialists and union >>members, unfortunately -- don't see through this manipulation. >> -- Ron Kelly >> >>On September 30, 1999 6:47 PM, Spencer Fitz-Gibbon >>[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: >>> Chang is right. GDP/GNP began as an attempt to measure ONE aspect of >>economic prosperity and has been turned into a god. "All we need is more >>growth, then we can afford education and health care and protect the >>environment". Crap -- the truth is, the ob-session with economic growth has >>been a distraction from the social(ist) agenda, has turned people >>increasingly into cogs in the economic machine, and has brought a global >>ecological crisis upon us. >>> Sorry to sound dogmatic! But it's an important issue, which I feel >>strongly has misled too many socialists for too long into ac-cepting an >>essentially capitalist socio-economic mentality. >>> Best wishes everyone, >>> Spencer Fitz-Gibbon >>> North West England Green Party >> > >
