From: Michael Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Just what *do* the economists and PotMG say about depression (or
>recession or stagflation or bifurcation or whatever) recovery by
>simply throwing away (with or without a war) approximately a whole
>second GNP's worth of work and resources?
>
>(I know what Jay would say and he'd be right: totally insane to create
>fiat rivets to  pay people to double the rate at which *real* rivets
>get pulled just so the rivet bookkeeping will stay in balance and crew
>will be able to "pay" for their eats instead of going on Ship's
>Welfare.)

Instead of paying people to tear what's left of the planet apart, we could
promote them to "deemees" (we could just "deem" them working).  In reality,
we would be paying them to stay home and practice birth control.

The same concept could apply to almost any economic activity.  For example,
we could continue to bribe our politicians and simply "deem" that they voted
on our pork-barrel project.  But in reality, they could just stay home and
practice giving speeches to their TV sets (virtual corruption).

With respect to "stagflation", it shouldn't be a problem as long no one is
actually working.  Otherwise, it will be unavoidable:

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Summary of

Energy and Money by Howard and Elizabeth Odum

[Published in Howard and Elizabeth Odum, Energy Basis for Man and
Nature (New York: McGraw-Hill, 1976), 49-59. Summarized with
permission of McGraw-Hifl, Inc.]

To understand the economic system as a whole, it is important to
understand the relationship between money, which flows in circles
within the system, and energy, which flows through it. The
effects of energy flows and the circulation of money on both
economic growth and on inflation will be considered.

The Money Cycle

In economic process, flows of money and of energy are closely
intertwined. For example, in the production process on a farm,
high-grade potential energy flows in and low-grade dispersed heat
flows out. Money flows in from the townspeople to pay for farm
produce and then flows back to the town when farmers buy
machinery and fertilizer. Some of the energy that flows into the
system is used to support the work involving these transactions
with money. The money paid to the farmer by the townspeople pays
only for the work of the farmer but not for that of the rain,
soil, wind, etc. To capture the contribution of nature, energy
rather than money must be the measure of value.

The circulation of money is dependent on the inflow of energy;
money will not circulate unless materials and energy are flowing
as well. In turn, money facilitates the flow of material and the
receipt and processing of energy, and money must therefore be
seen as affecting energy flows as well.

In the United States in 1973 there were approximately 25,000
calories' used for every dollar in circulation. This means that
if a person earned and spent $10,000 in 1973, some 250,000,000
calories were used to support that person. Since only 1,000,000
of these calories were needed to support the individual as
represented by the food energy requirements, the difference
represents work done by farm machines, power plants, industry,
and nature.

Increases or decreases in the level of money supply are thought
to influence the level of production in the economy. However,
this is true only if the "externals" to the economy -- i.e.,
sources of energy from outside of the money circle --are
constant. When the availability of energy changes, the economy
changes in ways not correctable by manipulations of the money
supply.

Inflation

The buying power of money is the amount of real goods and
services that it can buy. If the amount a dollar can buy
diminishes, this is called inflation. Inflation can be caused by
increasing the amount of money circulating without increasing the
amount of energy flowing and doing work, for example, when more
money is printed. It can also occur when the money supply is
constant but less work is done, for example, because energy
becomes scarce. As long as there is unused fuel energy to be
tapped, increasing the money supply can increase the flow of
energy through the system, causing growth as well as some
inflation.

During wartime, even when the money supply is not increased
inflation occurs, because energy is diverted away from normal
production into military activities. This reduces the energy
available per dollar in the main economy, causing inflation.

Depression and Recession

The depression of 1929 was caused by a shortage of circulating
money, a shortage of institutions to process money, and a lack of
spending. At that time, the government undertook massive efforts
to increase the circulation of money and the flow of energy.
Energy was abundant, so stimulating the flow of money increased
the inflow of energy. The recession of the 1970s, however, was
caused by a shortage of energy. Increasing the money supply did
not help in this case, as there was no increase in the inflow of
energy. Thus, if the economy is in a period of low growth,
increasing the money supply will increase the amount of work in
the economy only if there are untapped fuel reserves available.
If not, increasing the money supply will only increase inflation.

Note

1. To compare energies of different kinds, it is necessary to
express them each in units of one kind of energy required. In
this paragraph the numbers are in kilocalories of coal energy
required. A new word, "eMergy," spelled with an "M," was coined
for energies of several kinds expressed as one kind. Thus these
numbers are in units of coal eMergy.

[from pp. 204-206, A SURVEY OF ECOLOGICAL ECONOMICS, Krishnan,
Harris, and Goodwin, eds., Island Press, 1995 ]


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