Good to hear from Tor again!  Hopefully
well-fare for people is still alive and
well in the land of the midnight sun!

Tor Forde wrote:
[snip]
> May be the reason is that persons often tend to seek their identity in
> what they are missing.

I think there is truth/value on *both* sides here: If
one is missing something really important, that is really
important.  However, on the other side: Real human
companionship with peers -- "the conversation we are"
made flesh and dwelling among us -- is surely the best
salve for suffering we cannot put an end to, as well
as being the greatest source of joy when we feel good.

> There was some time ago a rather strange debate here.
> Some blind persons wanted to have an operation which might give them
> back their ability to see. But then organizations of blinds protested to
> this surgery. They said it removed the dignity of blind people. Blind
> people were now developing their own culture based upon blindness, and
> those who wanted to leave the state of blindness were traitors to their
> culture.

This is a "lovely" (even if not *felicitous*) parable.
It is real "food for thought".

> 
> When people are deprived of something they will often think about it all
> the time. I have read about persons who were in concentrations camp
> during the war, and they were thinking about food all the time. They
> were talking about food all the time in the day and dreaming about food
> in the night.

Anybody remember *Maslow's hierarchy* of needs?  Until your
stomach is reasonably full that's your focus in life.
Next comes a roof over your head.  Next comes physical
health (try living all your life with a sore dead-center
in your mouth, e.g.!).  Etc. -- all the way up to (why be
shy?) Husserl's vision of a humanity transfigured in
the eternal self-accountable re-creation of the world.

On the other side is the famous John Adams quote which
goes something to the effect that "I have been a businessman
so my children could be doctors and lawyers, so their
children could become artists and philosophers...."

> 
> Like this sexuality can cause problems, and Freud met people with
> problems that Freud interpreted to be sexual problems, and since that
> time it has been populare to reduce everything to sexuality.
> This might be the case for people living in a sexually deprived
> environment, like food is what all is about for other people.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!(etc.!)  The solution to a good many problems in
our social world is to throw off the sexual taboos which, 
if analogously applied to alimentation, would make anorexics look like
paragons of health.

> 
> But it is too arrogant to say that sexuality in the end is all that
> matters for everybody. I have read that americans have a strange
> relationship to sexuality, (and many others too.)

Back to Freud!  In _Civilization and its discontents_, he
wrote one of the most beautiful passages in all utopian
literature (quoting from memory):

    So far we can imagine a society of double
    individuals, libidinally satisfied in themselves
    and united by bonds of common work and
    common interests....

    But such a society has never existed, because 
    [existing] societies use all the means at
    their disposal [esp. sexual repression]
    to libidinally buind the individual to the
    community.... (Sec. V)

But Freud may have been wrong.  Al Lingis,
in _Excesses_ writes of a medieval Cambodian
(Indian?) society which was culturally
advanced and *did not repress sexuality* --
Khajuraho.  And we know that man's closest
biological relatives, pygmy chimpanzees,
employ sexual gratification liberally as
a socially bonding agent (Darwin does have his
uses sometimes and in moderation...)

> 
> All the best
> 
> Tor Forde
> email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You too!

\brad mccormick

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