Perhaps the subject should be Hollinshead versus Krugman.  What has struck me about the debate so far is that the protagonists are talking about two different things.  Much of what Krugman says in attacking the once, and perhaps still, conventional (Austrian?) view of the business cycle is valid.  It is not overproduction and underconsumption that is the problem.  It is a perception that the economy is deteriorating, and an expectation that it will deteriorate further.  People then want to put their money in a safer place, even if that happens to be under the mattress.  Tightening credit at a time like that is not appropriate.  What is needed are transactions to boost confidence and clear the market.  Therefore loosen credit; pump money into the system and make people spend.  But, as Russia has demonstrated, this may not work either.  Much depends on how bad things really are.  A broken down economy is a broken down economy.
 
Krugman is not talking about long-duration phenomena.  His time scale is a few years, perhaps a decade at the most.  He is referring to expansions and contractions which are not due to significant technological or social change, but which occur nevertheless.   Neither demographics nor the exhaustion of an innovation enter into it.  Something else must therefore account for a downturn.  His explanation: "A recession happens when, for whatever reason, a large part of the private sector tries to increase its cash reserves at the same time."  While this sounds flippant, it does seem to provide a useful starting point.
 
I would not want to speak for Mike Hollinshead, as he is perfectly capable of doing that himself.  However, it does seem that Mike is concerned with things that occur over the long run: the applications of an innovation become exhausted; the market is saturated; manufacturing centres decline, others arise; significant demographic and locational change occurs; etc.  These are very different concerns from the short-run concerns of Krugman.  All kinds of little Krugman recessions could occur while the things Mike is concerned about are working themselves out.
 
My conclusion: both are right.  But I may be wrong.
 
Merry Christmas,
Ed Weick

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