Hi,

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jim Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes, these are off-limits.
>
> If you download and study the MS-DOS source code, you should not contribute
> code to FreeDOS afterwards. We want to avoid any suggestion that FreeDOS has
> been "tainted" by this proprietary code.

In fairness, (no offense, Jim!), there aren't many DOS kernel hackers
in the world. So nobody is at much risk. (The closest I came in recent
years to any kernel hacking was to patch / build that tiny fix for ye
olde "Online Bible", which isn't saying much.)

> Note that Microsoft released the
> source code to an early MS-DOS (version 1, I think?) in March, 2014. But we
> have consistently asked that FreeDOS developers should not download this.

1.1 and 2.0 were both released, IIRC, non-commercial only. Totally
irrelevant and useless. I don't know a single reason why anybody would
want to look at them (very ancient, less functionality, worse
license). Do they literally do anything that FreeDOS doesn't?? Anybody
know?? (Boot / run in 64 kb of RAM and from 160 kb floppy, perhaps?)

> Also, DR-DOS was released as OpenDOS at one point, as Ralf says.

IIRC, 1997 was the rise and fall of the "open" (DR-)DOS. AFAIK, it
didn't even have all the fixes from Novell.

> OpenDOS used a very strange license that basically said "you may look, but do 
> not
> touch." You were allowed to study the source code to OpenDOS, but could not
> use it in other projects, and could not modify the source code to fix bugs
> or make it do something else. For this reason, OpenDOS is not really "open
> source software," and I ask that FreeDOS developers do not download and
> study the OpenDOS source code.

I never looked at it. But I'm not a kernel hacker anyways. IIRC, they
only opened the shell and kernel, nothing else. EDR-DOS of course was
Udo Kuhnt's work, and he added a lot, but it was still "non-commercial
only", so it's of no use at all to the free/libre crowd (indeed, not
"open source" nor "free software"). I hope Udo is doing well these
days.

> DR-DOS has not released any source code under the name "DR-DOS." So if
> anyone finds source code to DR-DOS, you should assume this is illegally
> leaked and not look at it.

They haven't had a proper release / update since 1998, so I don't
think much else is going to happen there. Somebody still sells it,
though. It was a good DOS back in the day, and it might have a few
(very) minor advantages, but overall I don't see any huge need to use
it (personally, even though I own it!) unless super curious or some
such. Who knows, maybe somebody else has a better use case for it (and
it is targeted at embedded systems these days).

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