I get the impression a lot of you are just doing wanking around, reconfiguring hacking etc, with no real purpose or end goal in mind. I did my share of this in the early days a couple decades back. Its educational but you have to decide how much of your life you want to waste on stuff nobody will ever likely want or use. And I never wasted anyone else's time with the pursuit by asking questions about obscure stuff no one else is interested in. Mostly because no one knows anything about that kind of wanking around. You're mostly on your own with it and hell you don't gain any experience solving IT problems if you have to ask someone else! Put in the gruntwork. Read the spec manuals that are a helluva lot easier to get now than they used to be. And a warning, not everybody who thinks they're a top notch hack has what Dilbert calls "The Knack" for the work. If you don't have it you shouldn't be playing here. Back in the day people with "The Knack" figured out all this stuff for themselves, no manuals or help from anyone. There was no convenient internet to ask questions on. You were on your own and had to figure it our for yourself or just give up on the idea.
I don't know???? I'm not sure of what this FreeDos initiative is about anymore. It seems to be a lot of wanking around with no real goal or purpose or better yet IT task or role to fill. I'm going to have to examine whether or not its worth my time to keep following the development of this OS. Mostly you seem to be trying to duplicate of match things that were all done and sorted out a couple decades ago. Whats the point of that? I thought this initiative was going to pick up where MS left off with DOS and take it somewhere new and better. more functional. I don't see the point of making modern hardware merely copy of duplicate what the old hardware and MS-DOS did 25 years ago?????? On 5/6/14, Thomas Mueller <[email protected]> wrote: > from Rugxulo: > >> I don't know if drive letter assignment is configurable. I'd doubt it. >> You might?? be able to adjust some things with certain (third-party?) >> tools, but I'm not sure offhand if that's a reasonable expectation. > >> > What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7? > >> I think you're barking up the wrong tree. But also I'm not experienced >> enough in trying all the various file systems and drivers and OSes. So >> maybe I am the wrong person to be replying here. I don't want to >> discourage you, just make sure you're asking the right questions. > >> I just think it's not well-supported, if at all, to read foreign file >> systems under DOS. There isn't a lot of active work in that area. I >> think it's not a priority. In other words, it's probably more >> reasonable (or at least more commonly accepted) to use a proper OS >> with proper first-party support for that file system, even if only to >> transfer the relevant data to a more suitable disk (or file system) >> for whatever OS you're trying to run (e.g. FAT32 for FreeDOS). > >> Even Linux only "mostly" supports NTFS (r/w) except for compression >> and encryption, last I heard. FreeBSD might have support for HPFS too, >> but it may be readonly. > >> In other words, it's not a good first choice to try to use FreeDOS to >> read all these other systems. I have no idea if eComStation supports >> FAT32 nowadays (probably), but if you want to use HPFS (full time, not >> just once or twice, read + write), that OS would be my first choice. >> And of course if you don't want to use the obvious modern Windows for >> NTFS (5.x or whatever), you're stuck with Linux or FreeBSD or similar. >> I'm not sure other tools are as trustworthy. Make sure you have >> backups before doing anything heavy-duty! > >> If you can bootup a suitable foreign OS and migrate the data to FAT32, >> "most" OSes (even latest eCS, presumably) can access it (read + >> write), and you can boot up FreeDOS and access it (full-time) with no >> problems. That is presumably the "preferred" solution here. Maybe not >> what you want to hear, but we can't have everything. :-/ > > I don't think FreeBSD, or any other BSD, ever had HPFS support, and I just > looked again for FreeBSD, not even read-only. > > If I had anything on HPFS, I suppose I'd use Linux to copy anything I wanted > to save. > > OS/2 was just getting an experimental third-party driver for FAT32 back in > 2001; I never got to use it. > > FAT32 is now good as a lingua franca file system for exchanging data between > various OSes but is very limited on ability to use large partitions: not > nearly as good as NTFS or Linux or BSD file systems. Now EXFAT has been > developed to remedy FAT32's inadequacy for large partitions. > > Not having a file system better than FAT32 is a big limiting factor for > FreeDOS and ReactOS, at least for doing big things, perhaps even rebuilding > the OS from source. > > Tom > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find > out: > • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity > • Requirements for releasing software faster > • Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
