Hi Jim, hi everybody,

> I'd like to see us continue that with a FreeDOS 1.1.

I agree :-)

> 1. FDUPDATE (FreeDOS Updater.)
> Mateusz's excellent update utility can help to keep your system
> current with the latest releases of FreeDOS packages...

Even more useful is the fact that the collection of updates
available on his page is a big step forward in updating the
FreeDOS distro ISO itself. As soon as all BASE updates are
in the collection, you can use the files there to update the
FDBASECD ISO itself :-). Of course ALL updates would be even
better, but BASE is a realistic goal for this summer :-).

> http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/fdupdate/
has the collected updates - already in "freedos packaging"
(appropriate zip file directory structure, with metadata)

> www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/lsm.cgi?mode=dir&dir=base  and
> http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/fdpkgnew.txt
show which packages got updated since 1.0: Dozens of updates,
including many BASE ones. It would be great if somebody could
have a look at those lists and check which of the mentioned
updates are already available on Mateusz' page. As next step,
somebody can take the list of "not yet available" things and
download them from their normal homepages, "freedos package"
them and finally let Mateusz add them to his collection.

> 2. An updated Install program.
> While more of a nice-to-have rather than a need-to-have...
> Our Install program definitely needs a facelift. It should
> still run in text-mode, since FreeDOS is really a command-line OS

If you look at the wiki, mainly at:
> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall
> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies
then you can see  that the installer works smoothly for most
of what it does but that several small things really need
fixing... Basically all of those can be fixed by minor BAT
file edits, and those fixes should be part of FreeDOS 1.1 :-).

> anyway. Aitor has been updating the DFLAT+ library used in FreeDOS
> EDIT, and I think this library would make a good base for a new
> Install program. Not looking for new functionality, just a refresh
> on the Install program. Can anyone help here?

Honestly I would not rewrite the installer - too little manpower.
But as always in open source: If somebody wants to do it, it is
certainly welcome. Especially if writing a fresh installer version
does not distract that somebody from other FreeDOS work... ;-).

> 3. An optional floppy-only "Base" install.
> This could be a 1.44MB emergency boot floppy image (like BALDER,
> or ODIN before it) with just the essentials from the "Base" set.
> Or maybe it's a multi-floppy (3 disks?) install of everything
> from "Base". What would be most useful here?

I am a big supporter of the Rugxulo distro for that:
It IS NOT an installer based distro but it IS a distro
which contains all of "base" plus a collection of tiny
open source goodies on only two disks. The three disk
version adds things like MPXPLAY and 4DOS :-). You can
of course use XCOPY and SYS to install this few-floppy
distro on harddisk manually. Keep things simple :-).
> http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/
has the distro, both as diskimages and as zips-with-the-
files, and it has some tools to make actual disks. What
the distro would NEED is some nice howto for making the
disks or making bootable CD/DVD or even USB sticks. It
does also need somebody who makes a nice big zip with
all the sources, or a directory with one zip per package
with the sources, so the distro will be "GPL complete".
There should also be a zip with "all those docs which
did not fit on the diskettes", of course.

Talking about docs: Fritz made a really nice HTMLHELP
update in English and German. Now he has been waiting
for two things: Somebody who verifies that the update
describes the current (1.0 or better newer) versions
of all BASE components correctly and somebody who has
a look whether the translations are okay.  Having an
up to date (command line and online) help system is a
big step forward for a user friendly FreeDOS 1.1 :-).

> For FreeDOS 1.1, I think that's it. No major changes.
> Let's worry about other, larger changes in later
> releases - like an eventual FreeDOS 2.0.

I agree. The dynamic duo of "fix the known flaws listed
in FdInstall and collect all updates which are already
out there" (at least for BASE and for documentation)
will already make a very nice FreeDOS 1.1 base distro.

Things like "FreeDOS should support NTFS and my 10 GB
Quicktime files on Firewire disk" can be cool but would
take too long to wait for, so major feature additions
better wait for FreeDOS 2.0 for sure... Having our own
USB driver, ASPIDISK, improved UIDE (UDMA/SATA/IDE/CD/
DVD/harddisk driver etc) and virtual SB16 on real AC97
are high on my wishlist but can easily be downloaded as
separate updates at any later point in time.

> What is needed immediately is to identify a FreeDOS 1.1
> release coordinator. I haven't heard from Blair in a while.
> (Are you still there?) If Blair isn't available to help
> assemble the FreeDOS 1.1 distro, I'm interested in hearing
> from volunteers...

While we do need a coordinator, you definitely do not
have to wait for one to show up if you want to help us
with FreeDOS 1.1: Things like making a list of files
to be added to Mateusz' fdupdate repository, packaging
those files for the repository, proof-reading the new
HTMLHELP version and making a source code tarball or
howto for the Rugxulo distro will be a big help for
updating FreeDOS in general at any time :-).

Eric



PS: There is also a stable kernel update upcoming but
it would be nice if people would start to dust off the
unstable kernel as well. While that will not make it
stable suddenly, it can start a process of combining
the best of both branches. Make unstable more stable,
but also add features from unstable to stable branch
in a careful, stability-preserving way. Unstable has
been frozen for years - after a period of moving too
fast to stay in touch with stable, as you might know.


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