Jim Hall wrote:
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From discussion on the thread, it pretty much sounds like SEAL has stopped development. So I am thinking about dropping it from the FreeDOS Software List. But if I do that, the only other GUI listed will be OpenGEM. While OpenGEM is nice work, and Shane has done a terrific job of packaging it into a distribution, it's also not getting new code. Shane had emailed me off the list and seriously questioned whether OpenGEM was something we wanted to make into an "Official" FreeDOS GUI, anyway. So I'm thinking about dropping OpenGEM, too.

I don't understand. Is Shane afraid of OpenGEM becoming the "Official" GUI, or he wants it becomes so?


That pretty much leaves the question of whether to drop the 'gui' category from the FreeDOS Software List altogether. I've just commented out the entry in http://www.freedos.org/freedos/software/ but the LSM entries are still there at http://www.freedos.org/freedos/software/lsm.cgi?q=d&a=gui

If there are no objections to dropping the 'gui' category, I'll leave it this way until I do some kind of cleanup on the FreeDOS.org site at a later date.

I think the problem with a DOS GUI is that it needs applications designed especially for it. A good GUI without good applications is useless, and developing applications for a particular GUI makes it not work with another.
In my opinion OpenGEM should remain on the main FreeDOS site, is a good tool for GUI-dependent people, and it works flawlessly with a bounch of applications embedded. I don't know if this is making it "official" or not, but DOS is a text-mode OS, so no GUI would be official anyway.
For developers, a GUI and a TUI library can be provided to ease development of applications for FreeDOS, letting them work standalone without any GUI or DOS requirement. Maybe some of GEM and Seal can be "stolen" to do this.


Ciao


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