I do not want to be demoralizing, nor to hurt anyone. I am also thankfull
to all developers.

But the argumenentation used here does not convince and makes me
think about the future of FreeBSD.

OK, for putting LUA was invested many many hours, the FORTH was
done in 5 minutes and ist worst quality.

But the booting and installation problems, that I had to solve in
a tricky way and with additional hardware, began with the LUA loader,
and are solved putting an old loader, as somenone in this thread noted.

And how many users did need lua there (and everywhere, also in the
soup)?

The last beat would be to remove the forth loader from the distribution,
then a solution of the problems will become much more difficult.

Rodrigo


On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, Kyle Evans wrote:

[...]
As an aside, I'd appreciate it if other folks in this thread could
simply stop dumping all over the many many many hours of work that
were put into getting lua into shape to replace the high-quality forth
that was already in place. The reality is that lua won a popularity
contest long ago [outside of a FreeBSD context][ and lowers the barrier
to being able to hack on our loader menus, which should be viewed as a
great thing. These comments were highly demoralizing, and I almost didn't
bother dropping into this thread because of them.

Believe it or not, issues with underlying media can cause problems
with 4thloader as well.

Thanks,

Kyle Evans
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