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From: Anton Shterenlikht <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: X client without X server
From [email protected] Wed Jul 3 13:09:25 2013
Anton,
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht <[email protected]> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:55:48 +0700 (ICT)
> From: Olivier Nicole <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: X client without X server
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to install an X client without automatically
install an
> X server?
>
> On all my systems, I throw xterm and emacs, as the primary tools
I use
> for management, but the display is always remote, I never, ever,
run X
> on the machine, but still it install X server, fonts and a lot of
> useless junk like xcalc.
>
> Is there a way to install xterm and only the libraries that are
needed
> to run xterm?
>
> TIA,
>
> Olivier
>
> I've been doing this for years.
> What's the problem?
>
> Just install xterm, or whatever you need.
> All the necessary libs will be pulled in, e.g.:
>
> $ pkg info -xd xterm
> xterm-293:
> xproto-7.0.24
> xextproto-7.2.1
> renderproto-0.11.1
> printproto-1.0.5
> libxcb-1.9.1
> libXrender-0.9.8
> libXpm-3.5.10
> libXp-1.0.2,1
> libXext-1.3.2,1
> libXdmcp-1.1.1
> libXau-1.0.8
> libX11-1.6.0,1
> libSM-1.2.1,1
> libICE-1.0.8,1
> kbproto-1.0.6
> libXt-1.1.4,1
> libXmu-1.1.1,1
> libXaw-1.0.11,2
> libXft-2.3.1
> fontconfig-2.9.0,1
> expat-2.0.1_2
> freetype2-2.4.12_1
> pkgconf-0.9.2_1
> pcre-8.33
> libpthread-stubs-0.3_3
>
> Obviously xterm does not depend on xorg-server.
But for some reason, xorg-server gets installed too. And tons of fonts, and
...
It could be emacs, or cvsup, these are the 3 X Window clients I install.
I don't use emacs, but you can quickly check,
prior to installing, what other ports will be
required, e.g. do
make -C /usr/ports/ search name=emacs-24
You might be familiar with this already, but
if not, the B-deps are those ports which
are required to build your port, and R-deps
are required to run your port. For emacs-24,
both the default and the devel branches, you
see that they depend on xorg-fonts-truetype-7.7_1
and lots of other libs, but not on xorg-server.
net/cvsup has a lot fewer dependencies, again
no xorg-server.
In general X server is only required by the ports
running on the graphical side - screen, mouse, kbd, etc.,
e.g.:
$ pkg info -xr xorg-server
xorg-server-1.7.7_8,1:
xf86-input-keyboard-1.7.0
xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0
xf86-video-vesa-2.3.2
nvidia-driver-310.44_1
$
So I'd say something is wrong with your installation
if xorg-server is being pulled in when you build
emacs, xterm or cvsup.
Post the output from "pkg info -aq".
Maybe this will give us a hint.
Anton
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Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants to keep overhead low. But the
days of limited RAM, small hard drives, etc...are long since behind us. I
remember in 1994 when and IT consultant came in and built a Novell server for
us with a whopping 1 GB hard drive. And back then how we thought with a 1 GB
hard drive we'd never run out of space. Well these days one could easily run
out of space with such a small hard drive. But with today's systems having 2 or
3 TB drives and GB's of RAM, something as trivial as X-Server should not be a
problem. If you don't need it, don't run it. But to worry about the space it
takes up is kind of a moot point these days. And like some of the other replies
mentioned, xterm may not require it, but one of xterm's dependencies may. I run
Asterisk routinely on my systems and I'm always amazed at how installing one
port requires no less than 38 other ports to be installed as well.
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