On 12/3/2017 3:46 PM, Chris H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 +0000 "FreeBSD Ports ML"
<[email protected]> said
On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated:
> On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +0000, Ben Woods wrote:
> > Hi Carmel,
> >
> > My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building
system
> > that is officially supported by the portmgr, apart from raw make.
> >
> > There are many other nice ports building tools contributed by the
> > community, which each have their niche market, but the
maintenance of
> > those tools is a community responsibility also.
> >
> > The announcement of impending flavors and breakage of package
building
> > infrastructure that doesn’t support it was some time ago (I
believe at
> > least 6 months), with a number of reminders since then. If a
community
> >
> Yes, 6 months but IMO ports maintainers have still 2 or three months.
> They "pushed" flavors out to early. I do not why.
Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning
how to
use
an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a relatively small home
network.
I am hoping that someone can get "synth" back up and working
correctly. If
not
it might be time for me to look at another OS for my network.
Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager",
"portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has done a
pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. Which
brings me
to what happens if I do embrace "poudriere". How long before that
becomes
history also?
port-mgmt/poudriere gets the attention, and maintenance that it does,
because
it was created, and is maintained by someone with a commit bit
(bdrewery).
port-mgmt/synth was also created, and maintained by someone with a
commit bit
(jmarino).
However, John's commit bit was taken away. While I'll not comment as
to why,
nor elaborate on my personal stand/feelings regarding that action. I
can say
that he has superseded synth with an application called Ravenports[1].
I also attempted to take on ports-mgmt/portmaster early on in my
endeavors
as a ports maintainer. However, that experience also didn't go well,
and I'll
not bog this thread down with the details. My main intent for my
reply, is
simply to indicate as to why history has been the way it has regarding
the
other ports management utilities, and to indicate there is another
possible
solution, that was not previously mentioned. That I thought you (and
others?)
might be interested in. :)
[1]
https://github.com/jrmarino/Ravenports
https://github.com/jrmarino/ravenadm
https://github.com/jrmarino/ravensource
--
Carmel
--Chris
Had a look at Ravenports. Thanks for the info. It looks a lot like and
rpm spec file.
If that thing really works, I can get behind it. It look like what the
ports system should have been.
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