On 12/20/2016 18:39, Warren Block wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, John Marino wrote:
On 12/19/2016 20:22, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 07:07:06PM -0600, John Marino wrote:
It's a natural reaction to stop attempting to contribute when previous
contributions don't get "attention they deserve".
Which some people (including me) see as odds with:
the impression that portmaster is officially recommended [has] to be
stamped out
People tend to put off working on topics that include "demands".
It's just human nature.
Plus, there are thousands of other PRs to work on that don't involve
such
charged language. Working on those is more rewarding and less
frustrating.
It was decided that any implied recommendation for portupgrade and
portmaster in FreeBSD documentation has to be removed.
Obviously there is some disagreement on this point, as this long,
multiply-broken, renamed thread has shown.
It wasn't up for discussion; portmgr made the decision on it and said it
should be done.
The docs people are aware of the decision and are charged to implement
it.
As volunteers, committers are free to choose the work they want to do.
Then give me authority to commit to documentation.
This excuse is easily defused.
It's not "my" demand. If valid PRs are in a moving queue, fine. If
valid PRs are being conveniently and intentionally forgotten, I would
say that's not fine.
There is no queue. Volunteers choose the work they want to do.
I am reluctant to point out the elephant in the room, but I think you
know what I'm thinking.
and mcl: I challenge you to identify *ANY* offputting language in PR
214679. You can't just imply that it exists when it doesn't.
There has been plenty of off-putting language outside of that PR
referring back to it, including some a few lines above. These are far
beyond demotivational. More of the same will not have a different effect.
My apologies for extending this already too-long thread.
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