On 07/04/14 16:28, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote:

[...]

        On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote:


            This discussion begs the question of why won't
            WITH_NEW_XORG work for you?
            I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no
            support in recent
            Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as
            time passes, the bit
            rot will make more and more things fail with the old code.

            I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the
            failure you see
            WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf,
            /etc/src.conf and
            any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and
            might not). x11@
            is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X
            issues.

            I should also recommend that, if you have not already
            tried, move your
            Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is
            very rare to
            require a full configuration these days. Most only need
            things for added
            fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is
            only about 27 lines
            long and mostly added fonts.

        ports/UPDATING states:
        20140218:
          AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4
          AUTHOR: [email protected]

          KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin,
        kdenetwork, kdesdk,
          and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes.

          KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires
        modern
          Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update
        Xorg ports
          to newer version follow instructions at
        https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics

        So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG.

        -Koop

    Ahhh!!! I  missed that.

    If this is the case,  then perhaps the default for generating the
    PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG?
    Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications.

    OR: we could have two repositories:  one which uses
    WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support
    and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4
    support.

    I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't
    recall the outcome.


Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories were available a few hours ago.
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce

The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Huzzah!  Hurrah.... Ummm... hold on a bit here...

No 8.4 support?  Why not just toss it in,  with the usual:

Warning! Here there be dragons. Or at least untested and verified packages. These have been compiled with make.conf containing:
MAKE_NEW_XORG=yes

At least doing this will provide KDE4 packages in an easy to access fashion. As for the XORG support, this seems to work fine for me as well, so I do not need compatibility with the old drivers...

Yes, yes... sloth.
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