On Apr 10, 2025, at 10:14, Mark Millard <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Apr 10, 2025, at 09:25, Mark Millard <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> The following data are from later in the builder seqeunce.
>> Here I'm not looking at builder activity with large Elapsed
>> multiplication factors for the build. It is more of a random
>> sampling showing examples of build-depends, lib-depends, and
>> run-depends and some with more than one of those notably
>> contributing. This is later when dependencies are normally
>> involve for the package builds.
>> 
>> A property of the dependency based ordering of builds is that
>> the earlier builds tend of have fewer dependencies and the later
>> builds tend to have more.
>> 
>> For building around 36000 packages, even a mean rate of around
>> 1 extra second per is around 10 hrs of extra time. (But normal
>> extra times are not generally near the mean-extra-time.)
>> 
>> It appears that a big factor in the overall Elapsed time is
>> the large fraction of the 30000+ packages that are "small
>> build step" packages --the subset of that for which build later
>> because of involved dependencies. The dependency analysis is more
>> time consuming than the build time --or even total for all of the
>> steps other than build-depends, lib-depends, and run-depends.
>> 
>> Basically: for the most part, only early builder runs can be
>> quick runs (no or very limited dependencies involved).
>> 
>> It would take a massive decrease in most build-depends,
>> lib-depends, and run-depends (when any) Elapsed times in
>> later builds for this not to be the case --because of the
>> number of packages for which the rest of the time is small.
>> Such does not seem likely?
> 
> The additions in this note show some examples of just
> one builder being active instead of when others are
> also active. Each is a bulk -C ORIGIN of ORIGIN I'd
> listed data for previously.

The M4 MAX is unusually fast for aarch64 at this point.
So . . .

This note addition takes those 3 package examples and
runs the "just the one builder" tests on each of 3
other aarch64 systems:

Windows Dev Kit 2023 ( 8 core aarch64, 4 X1C cores and 4 A78C cores)
RPi5B                ( 4 core aarch64, cortex-a76's)
HoneyComb            (16 core aarch64, cortex-a72's)

Note: The X1C and A78C cores do not perform the same. Scheduling
variations can lead to time variations.

Note: All this activity is based on an official PkgBase build
of 1500035 kernel-NODEBUG and the jail world also being from an
official PkgBase build for releng/14.2 :

# poudriere jail -l
JAILNAME         VERSION         OSVERSION ARCH          METHOD  TIMESTAMP      
     PATH
release-aarch64  14.2-RELEASE-p1           aarch64       pkgbase 2025-03-12 
21:11:39 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-aarch64

PkgBase updates do not seem to update the -p1 part of VERSION.

# file /usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-aarch64/bin/sh
/usr/local/poudriere/jails/release-aarch64/bin/sh: ELF 64-bit LSB pie 
executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter 
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1, for FreeBSD 14.2, FreeBSD-style, stripped

>> The supporting detail . . .
>> 
>> I'll note that the 3 load averages reported by top for the
>> below were near the number of FreeBSD cpus whenever I happened
>> to check that, instead of being during high load average time
>> frames. (I.e., no packages with large builder steps were
>> active.) There is a later explanation of this.
>> 
>> 
>> Both build-depends and lib-depends:
>> 
>> # sort -s -k5,5 ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt | grep -B4 -A3 
>> -e "^\[03:52:[0-9][0-9]\] .*configure$" | more
>> . . .
>> [03:50:57] [14] [00:00:15] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> patch-depends
>> [03:50:57] [14] [00:00:15] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
>> [03:50:59] [14] [00:00:17] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> build-depends
>> [03:52:17] [14] [00:01:35] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> lib-depends
>> [03:52:28] [14] [00:01:46] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> configure
>> [03:52:31] [14] [00:01:49] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
>> [03:52:33] [14] [00:01:51] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> run-depends
>> [03:52:34] [14] [00:01:52] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
>> . . .
> 
> For comparison/contrast:
> (The fetch would not have to repeat.)
> 
> I stopped the bulk -a an run just a -C devel/dwarves (no other builders,
> no need to rebuild dependencies):
> 
> [00:00:38] [05] [00:00:00] Building   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> check-sanity
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> pkg-depends
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> fetch-depends
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: fetch
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: checksum
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> extract-depends
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: extract
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> patch-depends
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> build-depends
> [00:01:15] [05] [00:00:37] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> lib-depends
> [00:01:21] [05] [00:00:43] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> configure
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> run-depends
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: package
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Finished   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: Success
> 
> Still a non-trivial addition to the Elapsed time if there
> are 10s of thousands of such packages in the ball park.
> 
>> --
>> [03:52:08] [01] [00:00:08] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> patch-depends
>> [03:52:08] [01] [00:00:08] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> patch
>> [03:52:08] [01] [00:00:08] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> build-depends
>> [03:52:18] [01] [00:00:18] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> lib-depends
>> [03:52:31] [01] [00:00:31] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> configure
>> [03:52:31] [01] [00:00:31] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> build
>> [03:52:32] [01] [00:00:32] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> run-depends
>> [03:52:32] [01] [00:00:32] Status     security/seccure | seccure-0.5_10: 
>> stage
>> 
>> 
>> lib-depends:
>> 
>> # sort -s -k5,5 ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt | grep -B4 -A3 
>> -e "^\[05:20:[0-9][0-9]\] .*configure$" | more
>> . . .
>> --
>> [05:19:35] [05] [00:00:10] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> patch-depends
>> [05:19:35] [05] [00:00:10] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> patch
>> [05:19:36] [05] [00:00:11] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> build-depends
>> [05:19:36] [05] [00:00:11] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> lib-depends
>> [05:20:08] [05] [00:00:43] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> configure
>> [05:20:09] [05] [00:00:44] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> build
>> [05:20:11] [05] [00:00:46] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> run-depends
>> [05:20:11] [05] [00:00:46] Status     graphics/gdchart | gdchart-0.11.5_11: 
>> stage
>> . . .
>> --
>> [05:20:02] [06] [00:02:04] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: patch-depends
>> [05:20:02] [06] [00:02:04] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: patch
>> [05:20:03] [06] [00:02:05] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: build-depends
>> [05:20:04] [06] [00:02:06] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: lib-depends
>> [05:20:26] [06] [00:02:28] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: configure
>> [05:20:27] [06] [00:02:29] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: build
>> [05:20:39] [06] [00:02:41] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: run-depends
>> [05:20:39] [06] [00:02:41] Status     net-p2p/bitmark-recorder | 
>> bitmark-recorder-0.16.0_1: stage
>> 
>> 
>> build-depends and run-depends:
>> 
>> # sort -s -k5,5 ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt | grep -B4 -A3 
>> -e "^\[09:15:[0-9][0-9]\] .*configure$" | more
>> [09:15:03] [07] [00:00:04] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: patch-depends
>> [09:15:03] [07] [00:00:04] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: patch
>> [09:15:03] [07] [00:00:04] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: build-depends
>> [09:15:22] [07] [00:00:23] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: lib-depends
>> [09:15:22] [07] [00:00:23] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: configure
>> [09:15:22] [07] [00:00:23] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: build
>> [09:15:22] [07] [00:00:23] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: run-depends
>> [09:16:01] [07] [00:01:02] Status     databases/pear-Horde_Memcache@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Memcache-2.1.2: stage
>> . . .
>> --
>> [09:15:13] [04] [00:00:13] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: patch-depends
>> [09:15:13] [04] [00:00:13] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: patch
>> [09:15:13] [04] [00:00:13] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: build-depends
>> [09:15:31] [04] [00:00:31] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: lib-depends
>> [09:15:31] [04] [00:00:31] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: configure
>> [09:15:31] [04] [00:00:31] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: build
>> [09:15:31] [04] [00:00:31] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: run-depends
>> [09:16:08] [04] [00:01:08] Status     devel/pear-Horde_Date@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Date-2.4.1: stage
>> . . .
>> --
>> [09:14:59] [13] [00:00:03] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: patch-depends
>> [09:14:59] [13] [00:00:03] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: patch
>> [09:14:59] [13] [00:00:03] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: build-depends
>> [09:15:18] [13] [00:00:22] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: lib-depends
>> [09:15:18] [13] [00:00:22] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: configure
>> [09:15:18] [13] [00:00:22] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: build
>> [09:15:18] [13] [00:00:22] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: run-depends
>> [09:16:19] [13] [00:01:23] Status     net/pear-Horde_Ldap@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Ldap-2.4.2: stage
>> --
>> [09:14:44] [02] [00:00:04] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: patch-depends
>> [09:14:44] [02] [00:00:04] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: patch
>> [09:14:44] [02] [00:00:04] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: build-depends
>> [09:15:03] [02] [00:00:23] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: lib-depends
>> [09:15:03] [02] [00:00:23] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: configure
>> [09:15:03] [02] [00:00:23] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: build
>> [09:15:03] [02] [00:00:23] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: run-depends
>> [09:15:21] [02] [00:00:41] Status     net/pear-Horde_Url@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Url-2.2.6: stage
>> --
>> [09:14:59] [09] [00:00:03] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: patch-depends
>> [09:15:00] [09] [00:00:04] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: patch
>> [09:15:00] [09] [00:00:04] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: build-depends
>> [09:15:19] [09] [00:00:23] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: lib-depends
>> [09:15:19] [09] [00:00:23] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: configure
>> [09:15:19] [09] [00:00:23] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: build
>> [09:15:19] [09] [00:00:23] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: run-depends
>> [09:15:59] [09] [00:01:03] Status     security/pear-Horde_Group@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_Group-2.1.1: stage
>> --
>> [09:15:00] [14] [00:00:04] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: patch-depends
>> [09:15:00] [14] [00:00:04] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: patch
>> [09:15:00] [14] [00:00:04] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: build-depends
>> [09:15:20] [14] [00:00:24] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: lib-depends
>> [09:15:20] [14] [00:00:24] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: configure
>> [09:15:20] [14] [00:00:24] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: build
>> [09:15:20] [14] [00:00:24] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: run-depends
>> [09:16:00] [14] [00:01:04] Status     www/pear-Horde_SessionHandler@php82 | 
>> php82-pear-horde-Horde_SessionHandler-2.3.0: stage
>> 
>> 
>> Mostly build-depends but one also has lib-depends:
>> 
>> # sort -s -k5,5 ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt | grep -B4 -A3 
>> -e "^\[11:10:[0-9][0-9]\] .*configure$" | more
>> [11:10:02] [14] [00:00:02] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: patch-depends
>> [11:10:02] [14] [00:00:02] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: patch
>> [11:10:02] [14] [00:00:02] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: build-depends
>> [11:10:46] [14] [00:00:46] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: lib-depends
>> [11:10:46] [14] [00:00:46] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: configure
>> [11:10:46] [14] [00:00:46] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: build
>> [11:10:46] [14] [00:00:46] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: run-depends
>> [11:10:46] [14] [00:00:46] Status     devel/cask@nox | 
>> cask-emacs_nox-0.8.3_17: stage
>> --
>> [11:09:53] [04] [00:00:10] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: patch-depends
>> [11:09:53] [04] [00:00:10] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: patch
>> [11:09:54] [04] [00:00:11] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: build-depends
>> [11:10:38] [04] [00:00:55] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: lib-depends
>> [11:10:38] [04] [00:00:55] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: configure
>> [11:10:38] [04] [00:00:55] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: build
>> [11:10:38] [04] [00:00:55] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: run-depends
>> [11:10:38] [04] [00:00:55] Status     devel/distel@nox | 
>> distel-emacs_nox-4.1.1_19: stage
>> --
>> [11:09:36] [12] [00:00:14] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: patch-depends
>> [11:09:36] [12] [00:00:14] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: patch
>> [11:09:37] [12] [00:00:15] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: build-depends
>> [11:10:00] [12] [00:00:38] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: lib-depends
>> [11:10:00] [12] [00:00:38] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: configure
>> [11:10:00] [12] [00:00:38] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: build
>> [11:10:00] [12] [00:00:38] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: run-depends
>> [11:10:00] [12] [00:00:38] Status     devel/lua-mode@nox | 
>> lua-mode-emacs_nox-20210802_10: stage
>> --
>> [11:09:14] [05] [00:00:17] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: 
>> patch-depends
>> [11:09:14] [05] [00:00:17] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: patch
>> [11:09:16] [05] [00:00:19] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: 
>> build-depends
>> [11:09:59] [05] [00:01:02] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: lib-depends
>> [11:10:21] [05] [00:01:24] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: configure
>> [11:10:26] [05] [00:01:29] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: build
>> [11:10:37] [05] [00:01:40] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: run-depends
>> [11:10:37] [05] [00:01:40] Status     devel/obby | obby-0.4.8_6: stage
>> --
>> [11:10:01] [07] [00:00:06] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: patch-depends
>> [11:10:01] [07] [00:00:06] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: patch
>> [11:10:01] [07] [00:00:06] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: build-depends
>> [11:10:23] [07] [00:00:28] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: lib-depends
>> [11:10:23] [07] [00:00:28] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: configure
>> [11:10:23] [07] [00:00:28] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: build
>> [11:10:23] [07] [00:00:28] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: run-depends
>> [11:10:23] [07] [00:00:28] Status     devel/pkg-info.el@nox | 
>> pkg-info.el-emacs_nox-0.6_18: stage
>> --
>> [11:10:21] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: patch-depends
>> [11:10:21] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: patch
>> [11:10:21] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: build-depends
>> [11:10:40] [02] [00:00:21] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: lib-depends
>> [11:10:40] [02] [00:00:21] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: configure
>> [11:10:40] [02] [00:00:21] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: build
>> [11:10:40] [02] [00:00:21] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: run-depends
>> [11:10:40] [02] [00:00:21] Status     devel/tablist@nox | 
>> tablist-emacs_nox-1.0.13_10: stage
>> --
>> [11:10:03] [11] [00:00:02] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: patch-depends
>> [11:10:03] [11] [00:00:02] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: patch
>> [11:10:03] [11] [00:00:02] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: build-depends
>> [11:10:25] [11] [00:00:24] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: lib-depends
>> [11:10:25] [11] [00:00:24] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: configure
>> [11:10:25] [11] [00:00:24] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: build
>> [11:10:25] [11] [00:00:24] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: run-depends
>> [11:10:25] [11] [00:00:24] Status     editors/apel@nox | 
>> apel-emacs_nox-10.8.20220720_10: stage
>> --
>> [11:09:45] [09] [00:00:12] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: patch-depends
>> [11:09:45] [09] [00:00:12] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: patch
>> [11:09:46] [09] [00:00:13] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: build-depends
>> [11:10:33] [09] [00:01:00] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: lib-depends
>> [11:10:33] [09] [00:01:00] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: configure
>> [11:10:33] [09] [00:01:00] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: build
>> [11:10:37] [09] [00:01:04] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: run-depends
>> [11:10:37] [09] [00:01:04] Status     editors/slime@nox | 
>> slime-emacs_nox-2.26.1.9_14: stage
>> --
>> [11:09:48] [13] [00:00:14] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch-depends
>> [11:09:48] [13] [00:00:14] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch
>> [11:09:51] [13] [00:00:17] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build-depends
>> [11:09:52] [13] [00:00:18] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: lib-depends
>> [11:10:14] [13] [00:00:40] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: configure
>> [11:10:15] [13] [00:00:41] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build
>> [11:10:15] [13] [00:00:41] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: run-depends
>> [11:10:38] [13] [00:01:04] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
>> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: stage
> 
> For comparison/contrast:
> (The fetch would not have to repeat.)
> 
> I stopped the bulk -a an run just a -C mail/mailest@nox (no other builders,
> no need to rebuild dependencies):
> 
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Building   mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: check-sanity
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: pkg-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: checksum
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: lib-depends
> [00:00:59] [13] [00:00:22] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: configure
> [00:00:59] [13] [00:00:22] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build
> [00:01:00] [13] [00:00:23] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: run-depends
> [00:01:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: stage
> [00:01:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: package
> [00:01:08] [13] [00:00:31] Finished   mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: Success
> 
> Still a non-trivial addition to the Elapsed time if there
> are 10s of thousands of such packages in the ball park.
> 
>> --
>> [11:10:04] [12] [00:00:03] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: patch-depends
>> [11:10:04] [12] [00:00:03] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: patch
>> [11:10:04] [12] [00:00:03] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: build-depends
>> [11:10:27] [12] [00:00:26] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: lib-depends
>> [11:10:27] [12] [00:00:26] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: configure
>> [11:10:27] [12] [00:00:26] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: build
>> [11:10:27] [12] [00:00:26] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: run-depends
>> [11:10:29] [12] [00:00:28] Status     mail/x-face-e21@nox | 
>> x-face-e21-emacs_nox-20070306_33: stage
>> 
>> 
>> build-depends:
>> 
>> # sort -s -k5,5 ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt | grep -B4 -A3 
>> -e "^\[12:47:[0-9][0-9]\] .*configure$" | more
>> [12:46:29] [14] [00:00:03] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: patch-depends
>> [12:46:29] [14] [00:00:03] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: patch
>> [12:46:29] [14] [00:00:03] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: build-depends
>> [12:47:42] [14] [00:01:16] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: lib-depends
>> [12:47:42] [14] [00:01:16] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: configure
>> [12:47:42] [14] [00:01:16] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: build
>> [12:47:42] [14] [00:01:16] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: run-depends
>> [12:47:42] [14] [00:01:16] Status     databases/p5-Amazon-SimpleDB | 
>> p5-Amazon-SimpleDB-0.03_1: stage
>> --
>> [12:46:40] [13] [00:00:03] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: patch-depends
>> [12:46:40] [13] [00:00:03] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: patch
>> [12:46:40] [13] [00:00:03] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: build-depends
>> [12:47:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: lib-depends
>> [12:47:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: configure
>> [12:47:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: build
>> [12:47:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: run-depends
>> [12:47:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     textproc/p5-Text-EtText | 
>> p5-Text-EtText-2.2_2: stage
>> --
>> [12:45:39] [03] [00:00:03] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: patch-depends
>> [12:45:39] [03] [00:00:03] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: patch
>> [12:45:39] [03] [00:00:03] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: build-depends
>> [12:47:00] [03] [00:01:24] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: lib-depends
>> [12:47:00] [03] [00:01:24] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: configure
>> [12:47:00] [03] [00:01:24] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: build
>> [12:47:00] [03] [00:01:24] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: run-depends
>> [12:47:00] [03] [00:01:24] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI | 
>> p5-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.14: stage
>> --
>> [12:45:04] [09] [00:00:06] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: patch-depends
>> [12:45:04] [09] [00:00:06] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: patch
>> [12:45:04] [09] [00:00:06] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: build-depends
>> [12:47:12] [09] [00:02:14] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: lib-depends
>> [12:47:12] [09] [00:02:14] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: configure
>> [12:47:12] [09] [00:02:14] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: build
>> [12:47:13] [09] [00:02:15] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: run-depends
>> [12:47:13] [09] [00:02:15] Status     www/p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple | 
>> p5-Catalyst-View-XML-Simple-0.01_2: stage
>> --
>> [12:46:45] [08] [00:00:05] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: patch-depends
>> [12:46:45] [08] [00:00:05] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: patch
>> [12:46:45] [08] [00:00:05] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: build-depends
>> [12:47:36] [08] [00:00:56] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: lib-depends
>> [12:47:36] [08] [00:00:56] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: configure
>> [12:47:37] [08] [00:00:57] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: build
>> [12:47:37] [08] [00:00:57] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: run-depends
>> [12:47:37] [08] [00:00:57] Status     www/p5-MediaWiki-API | 
>> p5-MediaWiki-API-0.52: stage
>> --
>> [12:46:37] [12] [00:00:04] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> patch-depends
>> [12:46:37] [12] [00:00:04] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> patch
>> [12:46:37] [12] [00:00:04] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> build-depends
>> [12:47:54] [12] [00:01:21] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> lib-depends
>> [12:47:54] [12] [00:01:21] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> configure
>> [12:47:54] [12] [00:01:21] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> build
>> [12:47:54] [12] [00:01:21] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> run-depends
>> [12:47:54] [12] [00:01:21] Status     www/p5-WWW-DHL | p5-WWW-DHL-0.03_2: 
>> stage
>> 
>> 
>> build-depends and run-depends:
>> 
>> # sort -s -k5,5 ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt | grep -B4 -A3 
>> -e "^\[14:03:[0-9][0-9]\] .*configure$" | more
>> [14:02:47] [14] [00:00:02] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: patch-depends
>> [14:02:47] [14] [00:00:02] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: patch
>> [14:02:47] [14] [00:00:02] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: build-depends
>> [14:03:43] [14] [00:00:58] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: lib-depends
>> [14:03:43] [14] [00:00:58] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: configure
>> [14:03:43] [14] [00:00:58] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: build
>> [14:03:43] [14] [00:00:58] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: run-depends
>> [14:04:43] [14] [00:01:58] Status     databases/py-flask-sqlalchemy@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-sqlalchemy-3.1.1: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:22] [01] [00:00:08] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: patch-depends
>> [14:02:23] [01] [00:00:09] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: patch
>> [14:02:23] [01] [00:00:09] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: build-depends
>> [14:03:16] [01] [00:01:02] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: lib-depends
>> [14:03:16] [01] [00:01:02] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: configure
>> [14:03:16] [01] [00:01:02] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: build
>> [14:03:16] [01] [00:01:02] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: run-depends
>> [14:03:43] [01] [00:01:29] Status     devel/py-flask-babel@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-babel-4.0.0_1: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:51] [03] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch-depends
>> [14:02:51] [03] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch
>> [14:02:51] [03] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build-depends
>> [14:03:43] [03] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: lib-depends
>> [14:03:43] [03] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: configure
>> [14:03:43] [03] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build
>> [14:03:43] [03] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: run-depends
>> [14:05:07] [03] [00:02:19] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
>> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: stage
> 
> For comparison/contrast:
> (The fetch would not have to repeat.)
> 
> I stopped the bulk -a an run just a -C devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 (no 
> other builders,
> no need to rebuild dependencies):
> 
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Building   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Allowing MAKE_JOBS for 
> devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: check-sanity
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: pkg-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: checksum
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build-depends
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: lib-depends
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: configure
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: run-depends
> [00:01:24] [02] [00:00:50] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: stage
> [00:01:24] [02] [00:00:50] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: package
> [00:01:24] [02] [00:00:50] Finished   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: Success
> 
> Still a non-trivial addition to the Elapsed time if there
> are 10s of thousands of such packages in the ball park.
> 
>> --
>> [14:02:47] [02] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: patch-depends
>> [14:02:47] [02] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: patch
>> [14:02:47] [02] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: build-depends
>> [14:03:43] [02] [00:00:59] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: lib-depends
>> [14:03:43] [02] [00:00:59] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: configure
>> [14:03:43] [02] [00:00:59] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: build
>> [14:03:43] [02] [00:00:59] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: run-depends
>> [14:05:38] [02] [00:02:54] Status     devel/py-xsdata-plantuml@py311 | 
>> py311-xsdata-plantuml-24.3: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:07] [10] [00:00:04] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: patch-depends
>> [14:02:07] [10] [00:00:04] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: patch
>> [14:02:07] [10] [00:00:04] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: build-depends
>> [14:03:06] [10] [00:01:03] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: lib-depends
>> [14:03:07] [10] [00:01:04] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: configure
>> [14:03:07] [10] [00:01:04] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: build
>> [14:03:07] [10] [00:01:04] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: run-depends
>> [14:03:34] [10] [00:01:31] Status     mail/py-flask-mail@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-mail-0.10.0: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:31] [06] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: patch-depends
>> [14:02:31] [06] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: patch
>> [14:02:31] [06] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: build-depends
>> [14:03:26] [06] [00:00:58] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: lib-depends
>> [14:03:26] [06] [00:00:58] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: configure
>> [14:03:26] [06] [00:00:58] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: build
>> [14:03:26] [06] [00:00:58] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: run-depends
>> [14:03:54] [06] [00:01:26] Status     www/py-flask-bootstrap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-Bootstrap-3.3.7.1_2: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:59] [13] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: patch-depends
>> [14:02:59] [13] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: patch
>> [14:02:59] [13] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: build-depends
>> [14:03:27] [13] [00:00:31] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: lib-depends
>> [14:03:27] [13] [00:00:31] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: configure
>> [14:03:27] [13] [00:00:31] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: build
>> [14:03:27] [13] [00:00:31] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: run-depends
>> [14:03:54] [13] [00:00:58] Status     www/py-flask-caching@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-caching-2.2.0_1: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:04] [08] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: patch-depends
>> [14:02:04] [08] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: patch
>> [14:02:04] [08] [00:00:03] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: build-depends
>> [14:03:00] [08] [00:00:59] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: lib-depends
>> [14:03:00] [08] [00:00:59] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: configure
>> [14:03:00] [08] [00:00:59] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: build
>> [14:03:00] [08] [00:00:59] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: run-depends
>> [14:04:24] [08] [00:02:23] Status     www/py-flask-simpleldap@py311 | 
>> py311-Flask-SimpleLDAP-2.0.0: stage
>> --
>> [14:02:47] [05] [00:00:02] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: patch-depends
>> [14:02:47] [05] [00:00:02] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: patch
>> [14:02:47] [05] [00:00:02] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: build-depends
>> [14:03:15] [05] [00:00:30] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: lib-depends
>> [14:03:15] [05] [00:00:30] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: configure
>> [14:03:16] [05] [00:00:31] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: build
>> [14:03:16] [05] [00:00:31] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: run-depends
>> [14:03:43] [05] [00:00:58] Status     www/py-flask-theme@py311 | 
>> py311-flask-theme-0.3.6_1: stage
>> 
>> 
>> The log file also allows me to do the likes of the following to see
>> what and how many (package level) dependencies were involved:
>> 
>> # grep "\<devel/dwarves\>[^-]" ~/bulk-output-release-aarch64-ports-alt-2.txt 
>> | more
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/argp-standalone
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/binutils
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/cmake-core
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/elfutils
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/gettext-runtime
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/gettext-tools
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/gnulib
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on devel/ninja
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on lang/gcc14
>> [00:00:17] devel/dwarves depends on ports-mgmt/pkg
>> [03:50:42] [14] [00:00:00] Building   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3
>> [03:50:49] [14] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> check-sanity
>> [03:50:49] [14] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> pkg-depends
>> [03:50:51] [14] [00:00:09] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> fetch-depends
>> [03:50:51] [14] [00:00:09] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: fetch
>> [03:50:54] [14] [00:00:12] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> checksum
>> [03:50:55] [14] [00:00:13] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> extract-depends
>> [03:50:55] [14] [00:00:13] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: extract
>> [03:50:57] [14] [00:00:15] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> patch-depends
>> [03:50:57] [14] [00:00:15] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
>> [03:50:59] [14] [00:00:17] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> build-depends
>> [03:52:17] [14] [00:01:35] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> lib-depends
>> [03:52:28] [14] [00:01:46] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> configure
>> [03:52:31] [14] [00:01:49] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
>> [03:52:33] [14] [00:01:51] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
>> run-depends
>> [03:52:34] [14] [00:01:52] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
>> [03:52:35] [14] [00:01:53] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: package
>> [03:52:38] [14] [00:01:56] Finished   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: Success
>> 
>> But it does not break out build-depends vs. lib-depends vs. run-depends
>> specifics, for example.
>> 
>> It looks like for many of the later small package builds, those
>> 3 activities now make up most of the elapsed-time consequences
>> for those builds.
>> 
>> top over various time frames shows mostly the likes of:
>> 
>> 66921    59 root        131    0 230016Ki  179080Ki CPU5     5   0:26  
>> 99.56% /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static add -A /packages/All/py311-flask-3.1.0.pkg
>> 66914    59 root         68    0  19536Ki    9344Ki wait    10   0:00   
>> 0.00% /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static add -A /packages/All/py311-flask-3.1.0.pkg
>> 66804    59 root         68    0  13408Ki    3120Ki wait    10   0:00   
>> 0.00% /bin/sh /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/do-depends.sh
>> 
>> for for build-depends, lib-depends, and run-depends for the
>> activity for each active builder. None of the ports are "large
>> build step" ones for where I happen to have sampled or when I
>> happened to watch with top. But: Most packages are not "large
>> build step" ones so this is expected much of the time.
>> 
>> NOTE:
>> The above explains the load averages being near the FreeBSD number
>> of cpus during periods when all the active builders were doing
>> such activity, as is common over many parts of the build sequence.
>> 
>> 
>> Other notes:
>> 
>> There is evidence on the build cluster results that the main-*
>> runs have a notably larger Elapsed time multiplier than the
>> 13* and 14* runs do. 13* and 14* are still substantial of
>> themselves. My guess is that main-* uses a debug 15000??
>> kernel and possibly a debug jail-world and 13* and 14* use a
>> non-debug 15000?? kernel (and a non-debug jail-world). But
>> such details do not seem to be in public descriptive information
>> or published in public log files. I expect the dependency
>> analysis activity happens to touch Elapsed-time-consuming
>> debug code. May be a more selective variant of debug kernel
>> and/or world builds could be used instead that avoids a
>> notable amount of that?
>> 
>> It looks like having a partially pre-built bulk -a to start
>> from could avoid wait-time for establishing a context that
>> shows the Elapsed time behavior for build-depends, lib-depends,
>> and run-depends.
>> 
>> I ended up with having to restart poudriere(-devel) during my
>> investigations and ended up using a non-debug kernel. So the
>> times on the left below are from when it queued 26014 and then
>> inspected 7111, not from the start of the original "bulk -c -a"
>> on the Apple silicon M4 MAX under Parallels on macOS.


For comparison/contrast, 3 other aarch64 contexts:
(The fetch would not have to repeat.)


Just a -C devel/dwarves (no other builders, no need to rebuild
dependencies):

Windows Dev Kit 2023:

[00:03:22] [03] [00:00:00] Building   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3
[00:03:26] [03] [00:00:04] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
check-sanity
[00:03:26] [03] [00:00:04] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
pkg-depends
[00:03:26] [03] [00:00:04] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
fetch-depends
[00:03:26] [03] [00:00:04] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: fetch
[00:03:26] [03] [00:00:04] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: checksum
[00:03:27] [03] [00:00:05] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
extract-depends
[00:03:27] [03] [00:00:05] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: extract
[00:03:27] [03] [00:00:05] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
patch-depends
[00:03:27] [03] [00:00:05] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
[00:03:27] [03] [00:00:05] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
build-depends
[00:05:45] [03] [00:02:23] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
lib-depends
[00:06:04] [03] [00:02:42] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: configure
[00:06:04] [03] [00:02:42] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
[00:06:07] [03] [00:02:45] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
run-depends
[00:06:07] [03] [00:02:45] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
[00:06:07] [03] [00:02:45] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: package
[00:06:08] [03] [00:02:46] Finished   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: Success

RPi5B:

[00:04:01] [03] [00:00:00] Building   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3
[00:04:07] [03] [00:00:06] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
check-sanity
[00:04:07] [03] [00:00:06] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
pkg-depends
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
fetch-depends
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: fetch
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: checksum
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
extract-depends
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: extract
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
patch-depends
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
[00:04:08] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
build-depends
[00:08:16] [03] [00:04:15] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
lib-depends
[00:08:53] [03] [00:04:52] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: configure
[00:08:54] [03] [00:04:53] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
[00:08:59] [03] [00:04:58] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
run-depends
[00:08:59] [03] [00:04:58] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
[00:08:59] [03] [00:04:58] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: package
[00:09:00] [03] [00:04:59] Finished   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: Success

HoneyComb:

[00:04:52] [03] [00:00:00] Building   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3
[00:04:58] [03] [00:00:06] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
check-sanity
[00:04:58] [03] [00:00:06] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
pkg-depends
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
fetch-depends
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: fetch
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: checksum
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
extract-depends
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: extract
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
patch-depends
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
[00:04:59] [03] [00:00:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
build-depends
[00:10:05] [03] [00:05:13] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
lib-depends
[00:10:54] [03] [00:06:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: configure
[00:10:55] [03] [00:06:03] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
[00:10:59] [03] [00:06:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
run-depends
[00:10:59] [03] [00:06:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
[00:10:59] [03] [00:06:07] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: package
[00:11:00] [03] [00:06:08] Finished   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: Success

M4 MAX (reminder):

> [00:00:38] [05] [00:00:00] Building   devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> check-sanity
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> pkg-depends
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> fetch-depends
> [00:00:39] [05] [00:00:01] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: fetch
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: checksum
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> extract-depends
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: extract
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> patch-depends
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: patch
> [00:00:40] [05] [00:00:02] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> build-depends
> [00:01:15] [05] [00:00:37] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> lib-depends
> [00:01:21] [05] [00:00:43] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: 
> configure
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: build
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> run-depends
> [00:01:22] [05] [00:00:44] Status     devel/dwarves | dwarves-1.19_3: stage
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Just a -C mail/mailest@nox (no other builders, no need to rebuild
dependencies):

Windows Dev Kit 2023:

[00:03:18] [01] [00:00:00] Building   mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: check-sanity
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: pkg-depends
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch-depends
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: checksum
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract-depends
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch-depends
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build-depends
[00:03:19] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: lib-depends
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: configure
[00:03:46] [01] [00:00:28] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: run-depends
[00:04:17] [01] [00:00:59] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: stage
[00:04:17] [01] [00:00:59] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: package
[00:04:18] [01] [00:01:00] Finished   mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: Success

RPi5B:

[00:04:07] [01] [00:00:00] Building   mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: check-sanity
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: pkg-depends
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch-depends
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: checksum
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract-depends
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch-depends
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build-depends
[00:04:08] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: lib-depends
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: configure
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: run-depends
[00:05:48] [01] [00:01:41] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: stage
[00:05:48] [01] [00:01:41] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: package
[00:05:48] [01] [00:01:41] Finished   mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: Success

HoneyComb:

[00:04:31] [01] [00:00:00] Building   mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21
[00:04:32] [01] [00:00:01] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: check-sanity
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: pkg-depends
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch-depends
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch
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mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: checksum
[00:04:33] [01] [00:00:02] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract-depends
[00:04:33] [01] [00:00:02] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract
[00:04:33] [01] [00:00:02] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch-depends
[00:04:33] [01] [00:00:02] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch
[00:04:33] [01] [00:00:02] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build-depends
[00:04:34] [01] [00:00:03] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: lib-depends
[00:05:39] [01] [00:01:08] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: configure
[00:05:39] [01] [00:01:08] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build
[00:05:42] [01] [00:01:11] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: run-depends
[00:06:41] [01] [00:02:10] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: stage
[00:06:41] [01] [00:02:10] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: package
[00:06:42] [01] [00:02:11] Finished   mail/mailest@nox | 
mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: Success

M4 MAX (reminder):

> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Building   mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: check-sanity
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: pkg-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: fetch
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: checksum
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: extract
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: patch
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build-depends
> [00:00:37] [13] [00:00:00] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: lib-depends
> [00:00:59] [13] [00:00:22] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: configure
> [00:00:59] [13] [00:00:22] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: build
> [00:01:00] [13] [00:00:23] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: run-depends
> [00:01:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: stage
> [00:01:08] [13] [00:00:31] Status     mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: package
> [00:01:08] [13] [00:00:31] Finished   mail/mailest@nox | 
> mailest-emacs_nox-0.9.24_21: Success




Just a -C devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 (no other builders, no need to rebuild
dependencies):

Windows Dev Kit 2023:

[00:03:15] [02] [00:00:00] Building   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
[00:03:15] [02] [00:00:00] Allowing MAKE_JOBS for 
devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
[00:03:15] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: check-sanity
[00:03:15] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: pkg-depends
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch-depends
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: checksum
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract-depends
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch-depends
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch
[00:03:16] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build-depends
[00:04:10] [02] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: lib-depends
[00:04:10] [02] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: configure
[00:04:10] [02] [00:00:55] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build
[00:04:11] [02] [00:00:56] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: run-depends
[00:05:02] [02] [00:01:47] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: stage
[00:05:02] [02] [00:01:47] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: package
[00:05:03] [02] [00:01:48] Finished   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: Success

RPi5B:

[00:04:14] [02] [00:00:00] Building   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
[00:04:14] [02] [00:00:00] Allowing MAKE_JOBS for 
devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: check-sanity
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: pkg-depends
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch-depends
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: checksum
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract-depends
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch-depends
[00:04:15] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch
[00:04:16] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build-depends
[00:05:53] [02] [00:01:39] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: lib-depends
[00:05:53] [02] [00:01:39] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: configure
[00:05:53] [02] [00:01:39] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build
[00:05:54] [02] [00:01:40] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: run-depends
[00:07:42] [02] [00:03:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: stage
[00:07:42] [02] [00:03:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: package
[00:07:42] [02] [00:03:28] Finished   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: Success

HoneyComb:

[00:04:16] [02] [00:00:00] Building   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
[00:04:17] [02] [00:00:01] Allowing MAKE_JOBS for 
devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
[00:04:17] [02] [00:00:01] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: check-sanity
[00:04:18] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: pkg-depends
[00:04:18] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch-depends
[00:04:18] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch
[00:04:18] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: checksum
[00:04:18] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract-depends
[00:04:18] [02] [00:00:02] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract
[00:04:19] [02] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch-depends
[00:04:19] [02] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch
[00:04:19] [02] [00:00:03] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build-depends
[00:06:22] [02] [00:02:06] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: lib-depends
[00:06:22] [02] [00:02:06] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: configure
[00:06:22] [02] [00:02:06] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build
[00:06:23] [02] [00:02:07] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: run-depends
[00:08:55] [02] [00:04:39] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: stage
[00:08:55] [02] [00:04:39] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: package
[00:08:56] [02] [00:04:40] Finished   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: Success

M4 MAX (reminder):

> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Building   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Allowing MAKE_JOBS for 
> devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: check-sanity
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: pkg-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: fetch
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: checksum
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: extract
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch-depends
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: patch
> [00:00:34] [02] [00:00:00] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build-depends
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: lib-depends
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: configure
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: build
> [00:01:02] [02] [00:00:28] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: run-depends
> [00:01:24] [02] [00:00:50] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: stage
> [00:01:24] [02] [00:00:50] Status     devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: package
> [00:01:24] [02] [00:00:50] Finished   devel/py-inline-snapshot@py311 | 
> py311-inline-snapshot-0.20.8: Success


Overall:

It sure looks like each of thousands --or 10s of thousands-- of
"small builder step" packages now take much longer to build
because of build-depends, lib-depends, and run-depends
processing.

I'm not clear how optimizing to approximate the pre-pkg-2.1.0
times would be done for the "small builder step" packages type
of context.

From various people building their own parts, you may well get
requests to allow them to disable the time-taking activity,
reverting to more like 2.0.6 for the handling on the issue.

It looks like main-arm64-default may well take about 2 weeks to
do a "bulk -a -c" on ampere2. It is at 236:49:46 and has 12458
to go, so still about 1/3rd to go. main-arm64 looks to take
notably longer than 13*arm64 and 14*arm64 do for pkg 2.1.0 being
in use.

(Checked time and remaining at:

https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ampere2/build.html?mastername=main-arm64-default&build=p25bf3a3260c7_s680d34896c3

that updates more often than:

https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds?type=package&all=1

does.)


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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com


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