On Fri, Apr 4, 2025, 9:57 PM Tomoaki AOKI <junch...@dec.sakura.ne.jp> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 19:44:49 -0700
> Steve Kargl <kar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On 4/4/25 19:28, Alexander Motin wrote:
> > > On 04.04.2025 21:45, Steve Kargl wrote:
> > >> Anyone using a Samsung T7 external SSD with FreeBSD current?
> > >>
> > >> If I plug the drive into a USB 2.0 port, I see
> > >>
> > >> usb_msc_auto_quirk: UQ_MSC_NO_GETMAXLUN set for USB mass storage
> > >> device Samsung PSSD T7 Shield (0x04e8:0x61fb)
> > >> ugen0.2: <Samsung PSSD T7 Shield> at usbus0
> > >> umass0 on uhub1
> > >> umass0: <Samsung PSSD T7 Shield, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.00, addr 47>
> on
> > >> usbus0
> > >> umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100
> > >> umass0:5:0: Attached to scbus5
> > >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0
> > >> da0: <Samsung PSSD T7 Shield 0> Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device
> > >> da0: Serial Number S6NPNS0Y201077Y
> > >> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
> > >> da0: 1907729MB (3907029168 512 byte sectors)
> > >> da0: quirks=0x2<NO_6_BYTE>
> > >>
> > >> However, the SSD is supposedly a USB 3.2 gen 2 device with a ~1000
> MBps
> > >> read/write speed.
> > >>
> > >> When plugged into a USB 3.x port, I typically see
> > >>
> > >> ugen0.2: <vendor 0x0507 product 0x0204> at usbus0
> > >>
> > >> and the device is not listed with usbconfig.  Repeatedly, unplugging
> the
> > >> ssd and re-plugging it into the USB 3.x port, I eventually get the
> > >> above dmesg output.  Do I need a quirk for this SSD to get
> > >> recognized?  Also,
> > >> shouldn't it connect with faster transfer rate than 'da0: 40.0MB/s'?
> > >
> > > 40MB/s exactly means the device connected to USB2 controller or at
> least
> > > at USB2 speed.  Considering that other times it does not connect at
> all,
> > > I wonder if some signal quality issue or something else prevents it
> from
> > > going proper USB3.  IIRC USB3 uses completely different wires in the
> > > connector.  Also USB2 and USB3 can be handled by different controllers
> > > with different drivers, so not detecting it still might be a software
> > > issue, but I can't say much about that area.
> >
> > Thanks for confirming my suspension.
> >
> > I've tried two different cables.  I have few more I can test.
> > Unfortunately, I have to use a short USB 3.x extension cable
> > as the port is on the motherboard under a table.
> >
> > --
> > steve
>
> Another unwanted possibility would be that controller mimic'ing SCSI
> (As reported being "umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only") is reporting as if
> it's U2 or UW SCSI device.
>


No. Reported speed doesn't matter. It's reported by the SIM and is a guess.
For USB attached it doesn't change anything.

Warner


>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI
>
>
> --
> Tomoaki AOKI    <junch...@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
>
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