On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 12:44 PM Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
<lyn...@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>
> Olivier Certner writes:
>
> > I've never found any compelling reason in most uses to enable "atime", 
> > except
> >  perhaps local mail but as addressed in other answers it is a relic of the 
> > pa
> > st mostly irrelevant today.  And its drawbacks are well known and can be 
> > seri
> > ous.
>
> When UNIX ran on PDP-11s and disk pack sizes were measured in the
> tens of megabytes, atime was very helpful in determining which files
> were likely candidates for archiving to tape when the disk was
> getting full.  And in the Usenet days it was common to mount
> /var/spool/news noatime, which eliminated a *lot* of meta-info
> write traffic.
>
> These days, other than /var/mail, I can't think of a compelling use
> for it.  I've been running my Plan 9 systems with atime disabled
> ever since fossil arrived (decades) without any impact.
>
> I don't see any issue with making noatime the default.  For those
> that must have it, /var/mail can be carved out as a distinct
> filesystem and mounted appropriately.
Just choosing the last message in the thread...
I do not have a strong opinion w.r.t. atime, but I do believe that
changing the default would be a POLA violation.

Please look at this email thread, where the opinion w.r.t. atime
seemed quite different:
freebsd-hackers@ Oct. 5, 2023
Subject:  copy_file_range() doesn't update the atime of an empty file

I'd put a url here, but gmail always puts the subject line in here when
I copy/paste the url?

Basically I did not think that updating the infd's atime when copy_file_range()
did not actually copy any data, but the collective disagreed, so I patched
the NFSv4 client. (I do not know if markj@'s patch did get committed).
They also collectively thought that Linux did a poor job w.r.t. atime.

rick

>
> --lyndon
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