On 8/17/23 00:40, Warner Losh wrote:
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 9:38 PM Dennis Clarke <dcla...@blastwave.org> wrote:
On 8/16/23 22:28, Alexander Motin wrote:
On 16.08.2023 18:14, Dennis Clarke wrote:
The default serial communications config on most telecom equipment that
I have seen ( in the last forty years ) defaults to 9600 8n1. If people
want something faster from FreeBSD then do the trivial :
set comconsole_speed="115200"
set console="comconsole"
Is that not trivial enough?
Except it is not a telecom equipment 40 years ago. Even at 115200 that
I routinely use on my development systems I feel serial console output
affects verbose boot time and kernel console debugging output. I also
have BIOS console redirection enabled on my systems, and I believe the
default there is also 115200, and even that is pretty slow. I see no
point to stay compatible if it is unusable.
You seem to be missing the point.
You need to make a configuration choice. You. Not the world. You.
Edit your /boot/loader.conf and put in the lines above.
Then be happy.
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Dennis Clarke
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UNIX and Linux spoken
GreyBeard and suspenders optional
PS: a recent CISCO ASA fireware defaults to 9600 8n1. Same as a lot of
equipment.
Yes. Some tiny number of things has that as a default, an even larger
number of things have a default of 115200 or even faster. And have had that
default since the 90s. The whole point of defaults is that they reflect the
needs of the most people. FreeBSD's defaults were already starting to be
dated in 1.0... today almost everyone changes the defaults to the new
value we are advocating. This is to make FreeBSD more useful out of the box
to more people. To turn your argument around: people wanting the old
defaults can configure their systems easily enough. If we look purely at
the numbers, vastly fewer people withh be inconvenienced at 115200 than at
9600. People can still use 9600... that's likely never going away... this
is just a more sensible default.
Warner
That makes perfect flawless sense to me. The logic of "popular" or "most
valuable" to the most users for something like this. Yes I know that is
a dangling elliptical sentence but it works.
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Dennis Clarke
RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC
UNIX and Linux spoken
GreyBeard and suspenders optional
