On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:16:53 +0100 "Hartmann, O." <o.hartm...@walstatt.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:42:13 +0200 > Andriy Gapon <a...@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > On 13/03/2021 21:01, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > > Running 14-CURRENT on several boxes (i.e. FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #49 > > > main-n245422-cecfaf9bede9: Fri Mar 12 16:08:09 CET 2021 amd64) with > > > custom and/or > > > GENERIC kernel and USB-only equipment (mouse if available, keyboard). > > > In multiuser mode, there is no problem using the USB keyboard. On single > > > user console > > > (for maintenance purposes), no USB keyboard is available. The same is > > > true while > > > booting and the rc scripts are worked on. Usually, one can hit the enter > > > key and > > > inserts a newline, this doesn't work anymore until the box is completely > > > up! > > > > > > I do not know when this problem as been introduced, the very same config > > > is used since > > > 13-CURRENT in its earlier time and has been modified accordingly, but I > > > can't see > > > obvios changes which would explain the wrecked behaviour now. > > > > > > I got aware of this problem, when a small mistake in /etc/fstab rendered > > > a box > > > unbootable, I had to head for the datacenter and wasn't even capable of > > > interrupting > > > the stuck system. Checking on other boxes running recent 14-CURRENT > > > revealed the same > > > problem. > > > > > > The interesting part is, that as long as those boxes are with the loader > > > present (all > > > boxes are UEFI booting!), the USB keyboard works as expected and I'm able > > > to select > > > kernel/kernel.old and so on. > > > > > > How to fix this? > > > > Can't help with fixing the problem, but here's some info. > > When you are at the loader prompt, BIOS provides emulation of a standard / > > legacy keyboard for the USB keyboard. That's why loader can work even > > though it > > doesn't know much about USB. > > When a FreeBSD driver for the USB controller takes over then the BIOS > > emulation > > stops. Until a FreeBSD peripheral driver like ukbd attaches, it's not > > possible > > to use the keyboad, unfortunately. You can check your dmesg to see when > > that > > happens. > > > > Personally, I try to avoid "legacy free" solutions and always have a PS/2 > > keyboard (even if it's a really a USB one using PS/2 <-> USB adapter). > > > > Of course, it would be great to reduce the dead window for USB keyboards > > and I > > think that it is doable. > > > > > > Hello, > > thank you very much for the explanation. For usual, I compile all necessary > module > staticlly into the kernel, the USB mouse, massstorage, keyboard. There was a > message > about some changes with uhid/hid, I tried all variants coming to my mind, > starting from > GENERIC up to add-ons statically compiled in. The systems in question I > observed this > the first time are quite old (Z77/IvyBridge era) and do have PS/2 sockets, > but others > (KabyLake) doesn't. Most KVM we use today in the datacenters are VGA/USB > based, so there > is no chance to attach PS/2 equipment :-( > > Kind regards, > > oh I usually try these kind of things though /boot/loader.conf whenever possible. If you prefer usbhid drivers, add BOTH hw.usb.usbhid.enable=1 usbhid_load="YES" lines to loader.conf. IIUC, these should not specified in /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/rc.conf respectively (it's too late to work properly). It would automatically pull hidbus.ko in as a dependency. IIRC, at least for some trackpads are forcibly handled by i2c and don't work with legacy usb driver (ums). OTOH, if USB devices are accidentally (non-intended) handled by usbhid and causing problems, you shoud intentionally add hw.usb.usbhid.enable=0 in /boot/loader.conf. This is default, IIRC. HTH. -- Tomoaki AOKI <junch...@dec.sakura.ne.jp> _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"