On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Bruce Cran wrote:

> On 14/07/2012 22:58, Devin Teske wrote:
>> Did I? When one starts discussing 'Express Install', we're clearly in the 
>> realm of bsdinstall, not bsdconfig.
>> 
>> Like you stated, in that case bsdinstall would not use bsdconfig.
> 
> I'm getting really confused here. Either "bsdconfig password" gets run before 
> the post-install configuration menu is shown and therefore the text saying to 
> set the root password in the welcome screen is unnecessary, or it doesn't get 
> run and it's possible to quit bsdconfig without setting the root password.
> 

Ok, it's more clear to me that the concern is with the welcome screen.

1. The welcome screen _text_ was ripped straight from sysinstall except with 
one difference… s/Pascal/Firefox/ (updating it for the current generations).

2. Currently this text is shoved in your face but it won't always be. The text 
will be moved to a "Help" screen.

So, in a way you're absolutely right… you've highlighted a conundrum (the 
welcome screen contains text which is not suitable for a welcome screen) 
because bsdinstall did something differently than sysinstall in this one case  
(reasons below; solution above -- get rid of the welcome screen).

The reason why we (Ron and I) chose to not implement the help-text in the same 
way that sysinstall does (go to the "Configure" top-level menu and then press 
F1) is that bsdconfig strives to be compatible with both dialog(1) and 
[purported drop-in replacement] Xdialog(1) -- and the latter doesn't support 
hooking into F1.

However, it's agreed that the welcome screen is not the right way to 
re-implement the configure.help file from sysinstall (actually rescuing _all_ 
of the *.help files from the clutches of the Attic -- further 
internationalizing them in the process too).

The envisioned construct right now is to add a third button labeled "Help". 
This can be done in both dialog(1) and Xdialog(1) (see "bsdconfig 
startup_rcconf" and the "Details" button -- except instead of dangling a menu 
off of it, it will produce a box with the desired help-text.

Of course, making this scalable and usable is a challenge so we haven't yet 
migrated away from the welcome screen before the import to HEAD.

It will be dealt with before MFC and also before WITH_BSDCONFIG becomes 
WITHOUT_BSDCONFIG.
-- 
Devin

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