I fail to see how all the considerations about Assange's motivations and
timing are more relevant than the certitude "CIA is doing it wholesale, and
- at the present - doing it in *this* and *that* area. If you don't like it
- for whatever reasons -  prepare yourself".

Adrian

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Assange is a public figure and can't be excised from responsibility or
> relevance over the things he does.
>
> The information is fascinating, but the timing is far more fascinating.
>
> Assange has spent a number of months releasing information that happens to
> benefit a particular political player in the most powerful country in the
> world. This release is no different.
>
> It's just a coincidence that he releases information about spying at a
> time when Trump happens to be claiming he was spied upon?
>
> If the information is the most important thing then he won't drip-feed it
> to the public at times when it most suits his political purpose.
>
> The fact that he is doing it that way means that he is using the
> information he has access to for his own personal benefit. That makes him
> no better than the governments he is "exposing". He's just one more person
> who is collecting information to use and using it for personal benefit.
>
> Dislike the "establishment" all you like. Assange is fast turning himself
> into simply an alternative establishment.
>
> If the information is all that matters, wikileaks will release all
> information it obtains as soon as practicable and will do all things
> possible to ensure that they do not release information at times that just
> happen to suit partisan political interests. ESPECIALLY when those partisan
> political interests also appear to align with the partisan interests of the
> media star of wikileaks.
>
> Jason Cleeland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Free-software-melb [mailto:free-software-melb-
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> Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2017 1:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault
> 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed
>
> I think people who dismiss Assange or Snowden as "Russian Agent(s)" are
> bonkers and have been manipulated by the MSM.
>
> I can't believe that such critical information that should be released to
> the public as part of being a so called "democracy" is seen as making them
> foreign agents.
>
> Vulnerabilities in the software that hundreds of millions (if not
> billions) use every day must be exposed and patched ASAP.
>
> We can't let this Anti-Russia scare nonsense affect critically judging our
> government.
>
> When wrong doing is exposed, IT must be the center of attention, NOT who
> revealed it.
>
> Its about the movement, NOT the man.
>
> Scape goating and saying "it's all russia's fault" without proof is just
> going to alienate people and will be 100% counter productive.
>
> It goes way beyond the US Election.
>
> So remember, always think critically of those who are speaking in
> Canberra, Ottawa, Washinton DC, Wellington, West minister, Berlin or any
> government relevant to you.
>
> Don't take "it's russia's fault" with a grain of salt, especially nowadays
> when it is just being used as a distraction.
>
> Adrian Colomitchi:
> >> Also remember that Assange seems to be a Russian agent.
> > Oh, really?
> >
> > So you say:
> > * it doesn't matter we know how you can be spied on or that you can be
> > "serendipitous" killed by a truck or that your "secure" apps that
> > should guarantee your privacy are got around. And it still doesn't
> > matter an organization that should look after the american public
> > interest chooses to hoard zero-days instead of disclosing/plugging
> > them (thus letting the public vulnerable against others).
> > * but it does matter Assange is human (thus imperfect).
> >
> > Quite a twisted logic IMHO, I hope you don't mind if I'm not accepting
> it.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Russell Coker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This isn't really news. After Snowden's information this is something
> >> most people expected.
> >>
> >> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/
> >> assange-man-in-the-news/512243/
> >>
> >> Also remember that Assange seems to be a Russian agent.
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> Kind Regards,
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