On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dennis K <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 06/08/2012 11:35 PM, Patrick Elliott-Brennan wrote:
>
>> Dennis K wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It's not so much that its a different country, but that its a new
>>> economy which hasn't gotten to the "fat, lazy" stage yet.  I'm sure,
>>> given time, any company will become lazy and undynamic.
>>>
>>>
>> I think, Dennis, that you're misreading the facts. The Chinese economic
>> system is a blisteringly violent mechanism with little to no interest in
>> worker rights and little in the way of concern for their safety.
>>  Community
>> safety is also a low priority.
>>
>> A relative who lives in Hong Kong tells me all about the crappy
>> engineering
>> that gets passed as 'fit' over there. Additionally there was an
>> engineering
>> inspector on the ABC just last week saying that during his time over there
>> he was appalled by the shoddy work and dangerous consequences.
>>
>> It's easy to make a radical change or 'fix' a problem in these
>> circumstances. It's possible to be impressed until you consider the cost.
>> These are the greater causes of the differences, rather than some
>> idealised
>> notion of being "lean" or "without fat" or "new".
>>
>> Regards,
>> Patrick
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> I'm in agreement there.  The Chinese economy is "Authoritarian
> Capitalism".  You see, the socio-economic system that we operate under,
> works better when you dispose of ideals like valuing life, democracy,
> freedom of speech, etc.
>
> The fact of that matter is, it is beneficial for the owner of an
> enterprise, in terms of productivity and profits, to have workers who have
> the least rights possible, the least quality of life possible without it
> impacting on their productivity.

Hmmmm... don't go too far in that direction, you can reach a point where
the society doesn't have enough purchasing power to buy your products no
matter how cheap they are - would sound a lot as the Great Depression.
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