here in Europe a lot of people go for the russian Krasnogorsk 3 camera as a 
budget option.
You get them around 150 USD plus shipping on eBay, often from Ukraine and 
Belarus.
These cameras were manufactured in vast numbers until 1993 and many of them 
have never been used.
There are two versions, one has a bayonet mount, and the other has an M42 screw 
mount
that allows you to use all kinds of cheap prime photo lenses, so the M42 mount 
is highly recommended.
The standard zoom lens is a 17-69mm f1.9 zoom lens that is supposed to be quite 
good quality,
even though the lens has no coating.
The viewfinder image is bright and large, it’s a mirror reflex system so you 
get 100% brightness (unlike Bolex)
Issues: The hand crank is damn hard to wind, but one gets used to it with time.
The internal TTL lightmeter runs on batteries, that are not available anymore.
Either you use a handheld lightmeter or you find a battery adaptor.
The loop formers are cheap plastic crap and need to be removed in many cases.
After the removal one has to learn how to shape the loops by hand when loading 
the film.
FPS range from 8-48 fps, single frame is possible via a wire release.
One shot lasts for 25 seconds max (similar to Bolex)
Repairing the camera is really easy. This website has all the infos: 
http://www.k3camera.com
You even get gates and lens mounts for converting your camera to Super-16 on 
eBay!      
I hope that helps!
Bernd



> Am 19.02.2019 um 18:52 schrieb Nicole Baker <[email protected]>:
> 
> Thanks for the info!
> The single frame option isn't necessarily necessary... as I mentioned I have 
> a Revere and it does have single frame ability.
> I'm looking for an alternative to a bolex. I've been trying to get one for 
> years, but always end up out bid or the price getting driven up too high.  
> They're just so desirable and popular.  I was hoping to find something else 
> that had similar features but didn't have the cult status price tag.
> I'm very interested in the very wide speed range mentioned in regards to the 
> filmo 70s. That sounds extremely useful...
> Any recommendations for a bolex alternative are welcome!
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 5:34 PM Dominic Angerame <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> In WWII these were also called Combat Cameras. A tank could run over it, 
> leaving the camera man dead yet the film and camera would survive. 
> 
> There is a great shot of the Allies first  landing on Normandy showing battle 
> action. It is evident that everyone on the ship was killed yet this amazing 
> footage survived. It is also the scene that opens Saving Private Ryan.
> 
> D
> 
> > On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Scott Dorsey <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > 
> > This is the camera they handed out to Marines in Vietnam.  Marines could not
> > damage it.  This is pretty amazing.  They are cheap and plentiful on the 
> > used
> > market because they all lasted.
> > 
> > That said:
> > 1. There is no single frame
> > 2. There is no reflex viewing
> > 3. It takes standard C-mount lenses which is good
> > 4. I forget which viewfinder you get with that model.  Some of the B&H 
> > finders
> >   require additional finder lenses for each focal length lens you use.  Some
> >   do not.
> > 5. It requires regular lubrication.  If you get one, use turbine oil or 
> > Mitchell
> >   camera oil on it and follow the directions in the manual.
> > 6. There is a through-lens prism gadget that can be used for through-lens 
> >   framing and focussing, but you can't get it.  They didn't survive the
> >   Marines.
> > 7. It has a very very wide speed range.
> > 
> > I think from your description that you would be happier with a Bolex, either
> > reflex or not.  They will do single frame and are good rostrum and animation
> > cameras.  Be aware that the finders are not always quite accurate and that
> > the reflex models require special lenses for anything wider than 25mm.  But
> > there are lots of animation rigs for them.
> > --scott
> > 
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