http://film-makerscoop.com/catalogue/anthony-mccall-line-describing-a-cone
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > mm serra may have some light to shed in this discussion re: fmc. > Unintended pun acknowledged. > > Owen P. > > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Chrissie Iles, Curatorial < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Responding to this thread (and Anthony can correct me as he is on this > list), Anthony McCall’s spatial film works that Jonathan mentions are not > in distribution catalogues because, like Paul Sharits’ location works and > other expanded cinema works from that period, they are multiple projection > works made to be shown in the physical space of the gallery rather than in > cinemas, where it would be impossible to show them. ‘Line Describing a > Cone’ and ‘Partial Cone’ were the exception to this because they are single > projections. I would be wary of the good old days of film versus the art > world argument, or the implication that the inclusion of ‘Line Describing a > Cone’ in ‘Into the Light’ somehow made his 1970s works less accessible. The > opposite is true. The early works have been restored, and anyone who wants > to show them can contact his gallery, Sean Kelly or Anthony himself. > Likewise, Tony Conrad’s yellow movies can still be borrowed, and are seen > more widely than ever before. The Whitney has ‘Yellow Movie 2/26/73’ (1973) > and six 1970s collage drawings by Conrad in its collection. Many artists > (like Carolee Schneemann, Bruce Conner, Taka Iimura, Harry Smith, Stan > VanDerBeek, Jack Smith, Hollis Frampton, et al) did not work exclusively in > one world or the other; their refusal of purity (which the yellow movies > specifically address) articulated a fluidity of approach that laid the > ground for the current pluralism of the field (though sadly not its racial > and gender diversity, which is finally being addressed in a long-needed > correction). > > Chrissie > > > > *From:* FrameWorks <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of > *Eric Theise > *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:32 AM > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>; > Jonathan Walley <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films > > > > Continuing along Jonathan's line of inquiry, courtesy BAMPFA's Film > Library and Study Center. I know McCall's Line Describing a Cone is from > 1973 but I'm not familiar with the dates in the rest of his filmography so > here's the full dump. > > > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number One (1966): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two (1969): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number One > (1969): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Two > (1970): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Three > (1970): no McCall. Curt McDowell makes a first appearance with A Visit to > Indiana (1970). > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three (1972): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement (1973): no > McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement Number Two > (1974): no McCall. > > Combined with my previous email, the only McCall work available in Canyon > catalogs #4-#8 was Light Describing a Cone. > > > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #4 (1967): no McCall. Lots of > Markopoulos though! > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #5 (1971): no McCall. > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #6 (1975): no McCall. > > > > Light Cone Additif Avril 1991: no McCall. > > Light Cone Catalogue (Mars 1994): no McCall. > > Light Cone Catalogue 1997: Line Describing a Cone only. 250F. > > Light Cone Catalogue 2001: Line Describing a Cone only. 55 €. > > > > LUX catalogs were not available on my visit today. > > > > A few bonus publications: > > Filmmakers Co-Operatives Catalogue of Independent Film (1975/76) & > Supplement (January 1977). These are Australian publications representing > co-ops in Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Sydney, Melbourne, plus the South > Australia Media Resources Centre (Adelaide). But no McCall. > > > > Film Programmer's Guide to 16mm Rentals, Third Edition (1980). Edited by > Kathleen Weaver, Associate Editor Richard Prelinger, Consulting Editor > Linda J. Artel. Lists Line Describing a Cone as available from CAN (Canyon) > for $40. I'm realizing now that I didn't check the other titles in that > book. Will circle back and check, sorry. > > > > As an aside, I completely forgot about that book. Seeing the cover (below) > transported me back to John Schofill's kitchen table in Chicago, mid-80s, > making lists of films to show at Randolph St Gallery. Also forgot to > mention it to Rick Prelinger who chatted with Kelly Sears about her work > after tonight's screening at BAMPFA. > > > > Also below: I don't recall seeing those Lenny Lipton designs before. > > > > Eric > > > > <image001.jpg> > > <image002.jpg> > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 9:06 AM Eric Theise <[email protected]> wrote: > > Canyon #4 (1976), #5 (1982), #6 (1988), #7 (1992), #8 (2000): Light > Describing a Cone is the only work available. I've also checked the > supplements from 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1995. > > > > McCall is not even in the Film-makers' Coop catalog #7 (1989). > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 7:58 AM Ken Eisenstein <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the following hard copies of Canyon: > > #4-1976 > > #7-1992 > no no.-2000 > > plus > Supplements from 93,94,95 > > and can check through them later today > > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Walley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello Frameworkers, > > > > I know you all have better things to do, but if anyone has 1) a spare > moment or two, and 2) old print copies of Canyon Cinema or Filmmakers’ > Co-op catalogs, I have a question. > > > > Currently, only two of Anthony McCall’s solid light films are available > for rental from Co-ops: *Line Describing a Cone* and *Conical Solid *(this > includes Canyon, FMC, Light Cone, and LUX). I believe I recall that *Cone > of Variable Volume* and *Partial Cone* were once available from at least > some of these co-ops (not sure about *Long Film for Four Projectors*, but > I’ll throw that into the mix, too). > > > > Can anyone confirm? This means going rather far back, as I assume that the > availability of these films changed after “Into the Light” and McCall’s new > cycle of solid light films, circa 2001/2/3. > > > > Back when you could event rent a *Yellow Movie*, at least from FMC. Ah, > the days before moving image art. > > > > Thanks in advance for any info, ideas, suggestions. > > All best, > > Jonathan > > > > > > Dr. Jonathan Walley > Associate Professor and Chair > Department of Cinema > Denison University > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- www.marybillyou.com
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