Fred, Yes, I have no real opinion about this particular case either, because I don't know enough about it. Neutrality can be a good choice sometimes, I guess. Or at least being initially cautious -- as a person can start to feel like one often does these days, when listening to the news, for example, when different "realities" are competing with each other, as various purposes are being pursued by different players trying to accomplish their own particular ends, intentionally sowing confusion in what often seems a rejection altogether of any attempt at rational thought! (But insofar as the discussion became more general, there are definitely important issues to consider. And I agree, of course, that true sexual harassment and real bullying are destructive and intolerable.) ... Francisco, I definitely do agree with you, also, that the world of academia is absolute anathema to some artists, and they probably do need to avoid it altogether. It's definitely not the best environment for everyone. (Stan used to imagine himself sometimes as some sort of "spy" in alien territory -- in various life circumstances. I guess that worked for him to some degree.)
Marilyn Brakhage From: "Fred Camper" <[email protected]> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Forwarded from Massart Faculty Marilyn, I don’t disagree with anything you wrote. Five people agreeing are not always right. My post was colored by the fact that I believed the initial story, finding it frightening that an instructor would be pressured out of a job for showing a film. I don’t know of any films I have seen the showing of which should ever be judged as sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is very serious and very bad, and the term should not be demeaned by application with speech acts not directed at a particular person. I taught in the same school as Stan Brakhage for quite a few years. Perhaps he could be a little difficult at times, but he is not even remotely like the unnamed person I was referencing. I was pleased to sometimes try to smooth out small conflict between Stan and the administration. There are intense and dramatic personalities; then there is the occasional abuser, and that is the person I was referring to, someone who in the course of what should have been an objective conversation routinely resorted to frequent personal insults – among many other bullying tactics. One year I got a grant that allowed us to bring in fifteen different filmmakers from the US and abroad. As the list came together, I was warned that this or that filmmaker would be very difficult. In every case but one, they were not. Kenneth Anger was gentle, even sweet, and did exactly what he had agreed to do. A few had special requests, but they were not hard to meet. One of the fifteen was difficult. When he met with his student projectionist in advance of his public show, the projectionist suggested, from the projector deck, that they needed to agree on a signal between them if the filmmaker felt a film was out of focus. The filmmaker said something like, "Why don’t I just call out, 'Hey, you fuck, focus it. '" The projectionist took exception to being referred to as a "fuck," and almost walked out. To me, this is not a matter about which reasonable people can disagree; it is bullying. That is not to say that I have any idea what the five were referring to. Maybe I would agree; maybe not. Remember too that I was responding to someone who was taking sides, apparently accepting the initial narrative, suggesting that the artist in general is so abused that he should teach dishonestly. Maybe in a totalitarian dictatorship? We are not there yet, thankfully. I don’t know what I would think about the MassArt situation if I had been there. It is just that I was embarrassed to be thinking ill of MassArt from having heard and accepted one side of the story. Now I am neutral. I always did admire Switzerland for not having been in a foreign war since 1515. Fred Camper Chicago On 4/16/2018 3:31 AM, MARILYN BRAKHAGE wrote: I don't know all the details of this story (and it doesn't sound as if anyone else in this thread does either), but I just wanted to make a few observations about the conversation generally: "Are the five signatories lying?" you ask. One might also ask, are the five signatories engaging in a sort of 'group think'? And/or is it possible that both sides of the tale are telling "the truth" from their own perspective and chosen emphasis? ... My (admittedly sketchy) understanding is that Saul Levine received a student complaint about the content of a film, a student feeling "unsafe" perhaps, or "sexually harassed?" (as is increasingly the charge that is made, it seems, when someone is presented with something of a sexual nature that makes them uncomfortable.) Any such complaint would necessitate that the administration investigate it. They would be obliged to do that. This chain of events taking place within a backdrop of long standing contention between Saul and other faculty members and/or administrators may have led to an encounter that caused Saul to decide that all things considered he'd rather just quit. Thus, they can say that he was not forced to quit because of his film, that leaving was his choice -- yet he still has a story to tell about what led to his decision to leave. The administration says he was not forced to quit, and paints him as an ongoing problematic personality who is now "bullying" them. I don't know precisely what they mean by that, but he has his story to tell, from his point of view, and has every right to tell it. I don't think that telling your story of a contentious relationship with others, and even naming the people you were in argument with, should necessarily be considered "bullying." And in a five versus one argument it is not necessarily true that the five must be right and the one must be wrong. They have their experience and views and he has his. ... As for the longstanding conflicts, no doubt an ability to compromise and to 'get along' with people is helpful in any walk of life -- but on the other hand, there are some things that people of integrity will not compromise on. They may fight for awhile, they may decide to move on, and they may also have an argument they'd subsequently like to present to a larger audience. So be it. But the idea that artists are likely to be particularly and uniquely difficult, self-absorbed people who are impossible to get along with is a cliché that I reject. There are, of course, a lot of horribly difficult artists. And there are a lot of horribly difficult non-artists. And academic institutions are also fairly notorious for their petty, territorial squabbling, which has nothing to do with art whatsoever. As a raised example of an artist teaching, Stan Brakhage did, yes, show his own films as a part of his teaching practice, but he never taught film making . This is because he considered his method of making films, which involved deep dives into the unconscious, not "teachable" in the ordinary sense, and potentially dangerous, and probably because he wanted to keep his filmmaking practice generally separate from his teaching. ... I don't recall Stan "getting into trouble" with the school over the nature of his completed films, though I do recall some students complaining, after he showed Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising, that he was showing them "pornography." And on another occasion when a university colleague (not a filmmaker or artist of any kind) filled in for Stan during an absence, she told his Film History class that Stan's idea of film history was only about what mattered to him in his own filmmaking (which was totally untrue; as many know he was a voracious consumer of films of all sorts, and his film history classes were extremely varied and fabulously illuminating). But academics often have very narrowly focussed areas of interest also, and can be just as competitive and controlling in their personalities as anyone else. Without going into any further specifics, it is also generally true, I think, that people with large, passionate, or dramatic personalities or temperaments are very easy to target for blame when tempers flare and disagreements become intense. People will find it easy to believe that it must have been that person's fault. But there are times when that is not the case. So who knows? Fred, you also say that we should take care to make accusations about the abridgment of academic freedom only when it has really occurred. True, but it might also be worth noting that such abridgments can creep in in insidious ways and we need to be vigilant about the effects of any dominating agenda of any particular group of people, and the increasingly narrowing notions about what is and is not acceptable and open for discussion, let alone viewing, in our academic institutions. I think these are real, not fanciful dangers. Marilyn Brakhage From: "Fred Camper" <[email protected]> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 1:43:51 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Forwarded from Massart Faculty So it sounds like you are unquestionably accepting that Levine was forced out due to the nature of his filmmaking? Are the five signatories of that statement lying? Of course it is true that it is in the nature of some kinds of art making that the artist will believe that she or he has found the truth, the path, the only correct way of making films or other art. Jessica comments on a facet of this, though I think in some other kinds of artists authoritarianism is not to be found, or will be successfully hidden. But for some of the most original artists, this belief is central to their practice. One only has to read the writings of Dziga Vertov and Robert Bresson, both filmmakers who felt so strongly that their mode of filmmaking was the only true way that they used use words or phrases to refer only to their own films to the exclusion of all others to emphasize the correctness of their choices, for examples. One can only speculate as to the nature, if language differences could be bridged, of a "faculty meeting" to discuss the correct forms of cinema education with a faculty consisting of Eisenstein, Vertov, Epstein, Bresson, Kubelka, Brakhage, Rainer, and, oh, say, Roberto Rossellini, Nicholas Ray and John Ford. But at the same time, Stan Brakhage, Peter Kubelka, Robert Breer, Hollis Frampton, George Landow/Owen Land, Ernie Gehr, Larry Jordan, Ken Jacobs, Larry Gottheim, and of course others, all taught filmmaking for many decades. I name these in particular as filmmaker whose work I like, in most cases hugely. All showed their own films as part of their teaching practice. Does anyone know of cases in which these filmmakers got into trouble with their schools over the nature of their completed films, or for their expression of their ideas about their art? Some have troubles, but more due to the nature of their personalities, is that not right? With so many nations sliding into dictatorship, we who are privileged to live in relatively free nations should appreciate, and try to preserve, what we have, taking care to make accusation about the abridgement of academic freedom only when it has really occurred. What you are advocating implies an inner split that is probably impossible for most of us to put in practice in the long term, but is also fundamentally dishonest. Hired to teach one's beliefs, and not directed to conceal them, the filmmaker is then to spend a career lying about them? Is that even fair to the students, or to the school? Would such a course not make the world a fundamentally worse, rather than better, place? Haven't we seen enough lying, especially when it is not absolutely necessary? Avoiding academia entirely might be a good idea, if one can manage it. I think Markopoulos's films only got greater, after he left teaching and the U.S. I certainly felt freer in many ways when I could survive as a freelance writer, working mostly for a for-profit newspaper, than when I turned to teaching at allegedly high-minded not for profit institutions. At the same time, I have been relatively free to work my own beliefs about cinema and about art even in predesigned courses in which I have to teach certain elements I did not decide on (though also do not oppose). And I feel sure that for many, alternative-to-teaching jobs might be far worse than teaching. Fred Camper Chicago On 4/14/2018 12:40 PM, Francisco Torres wrote: BQ_BEGIN I suggest one course of action to avoid such problems- Total boycott of academia. Find other sources of employment if possible. If academia is the only alternative in terms of earning an income then withhold your true work from the academic audience. Create safe, vanilla works for the administration and the student body and another body of work for yourself and your true audience (outside academia). Also withhold your true wisdom from your academic work, keep it secret. Moreover, feed an official artistic line to your students and co-workers. Play it safe. After all, it worked for the alchemists for hundred of years. 2018-04-14 1:34 GMT-04:00 lady snowblood < [email protected] > : BQ_BEGIN I’ve been observing this situation and reflecting on the need for competing skills inside one person: - adherence to personal vision in the studio - the flexibility of ego to collaborate well with colleagues and students in the educational environment. I’ve seen behavior like this in art teachers the past, although not to this degree. And I assigned it as lots of skill in one area (authorship) fewer skills in another ... It’s hard. I’m reminded that “you can’t say authoritarian without author”. I also re-invest in the notion that I have to keep a good buffer between my formal creative practice (viciously adhering to the vision) and the social skills for creating resilient learning environment (relax, communicate, provoke, nourish, discover together etc). Jessica * * * * * Jessica Fenlon artist : poet : experimental : http://sixth-station.com flickr : vimeo : instagram On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:13 AM, John Muse < [email protected] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Another turn of the screw: https://www.artforum.com/news/massart-embroiled-in-controversy-over-resignation-of-filmmaker-saul-levine-74966 j BQ_BEGIN On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Jon Behrens < [email protected] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Thank you Ed BQ_END BQ_BEGIN For sharing this BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Sent from my iPhone BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_BEGIN On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Deana LeBlanc < [email protected] > wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN Emotion vs. reason? His live video got us PUMPED and struck a cord- we who were watching were cheering, (crying a bit admittedly). Even had musicians riding along to its It speaks to something bigger and is effectively cathartic- the performance, the storytelling, while also being a testimony of information. Two things going on at once, important to distinguish. But this also makes sense- the statement from Mass Art Faculty- glad to hear from them. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, Ed Halter < [email protected] > wrote: BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN Hey Frameworks BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN Felt I should share this announcement that was forwarded to me from the Massart faculty. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN ------------ BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN TO THE MASSART COMMUNITY: BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN The faculty and staff of the Film/Video department demand that Professor Saul Levine stop his BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN lies about recent events at Mass Art and his cyber-bullying against his colleagues. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN It is because of Professor Levine’s very public attacks and misrepresentations that we feel BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN obliged to correct his version of the complaints against him. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN He has bullied his colleagues and created an abusive working environment over many years. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN He has derailed and destroyed important discussions about urgent departmental and curricular BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN issues. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN This is NOT an issue of academic freedom. No one at Mass Art made any effort to censor or BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN punish Professor Levine for screening his film or any other film he has shown over the years. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN No one forced him to retire.The decision to retire is entirely Professor Levine’s. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN We recognize Professor Levine as a brilliant artist and programmer and are thankful for his BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN contributions to the department and to Massart.It is extremely painful to see his toxic rant BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN against the department, besmearing the College and insulting us by name while claiming BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN himself as the victim. BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN As artists, teachers and mentors, it is our responsibility to stand up when we are bullied and to BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN treat each other with respect. It is also our duty to foster an open, respectful, and collegial BQ_END BQ_END BQ_BEGIN BQ_BEGIN environment for our students. 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