*If Notes After Long Silence needs a warning, it's certainly not because of
sexual content. *

*Big Stick is rather stroboscopic--and so I could imagine a warning about
visually-instigated epilepsy. *

*But these are just aggressive, in-your-face, films, not unusual for the
time when they were made. *

*Being made uncomfortable by a film is not being harmed.*

*Scott*

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:42 PM, John Muse <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Scott.  Cryptic!  I’m sure the situation is more complicated than we
> know, and am here only sharing information as I find it.  The only counter
> narrative I’ve discovered so far is the one published in the Boston Globe:
>
> > Kim Keown, a former MassArt student who said she first saw the film
> years ago with no warning about its graphic content, said cautionary notice
> is the critical issue.
> >
> > “Saul has bullied and abused other faculty and staff at MassArt for
> years,” said Keown, who now works as a studio manager in the school’s film
> area. “I have nothing against the film or this kind of artwork being made
> or shown, but with [no] warning [it] can make one uncomfortable and unsafe.
> I was his student; and I did not speak out. If I had, back then, I would
> have been ridiculed.”
>
>
> See https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/03/31/massart-
> professor-says-school-ousted-him-after-student-complaints/
> rY0bKt12T1DrhJZ8ocYKJP/story.html
>
> I see two issues that are entangled: 1., Title IX and due process, which
> is worthy of serious exploration, and according to Saul’s report is at
> issue here.  And 2. changing standards for “good” vs. “bad” provocation,
> which you gloss with "things that seemed passionate and committed to one
> generation now seeming outrageous to another.”
>
> I’m equally interested in how both matters play out in this case.  But my
> emotions are all on Saul’s side.  Admittedly, I’m using the latter to
> understand the former.  For now, that seems ok, but I’ll certainly try to
> be cautious until I learn more.
>
> j
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:01 PM, Scott MacDonald <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > PS John,
> >
> > I'm hearing (and of course this would have to be the case) that the
> situation with Saul and MassArt is more complicated than I'd originally
> understood--and I suspect that there's an element here of things that
> seemed passionate and committed to one generation now seeming outrageous to
> another.
> >
> > Like, I expect, most everyone who teaches film these days, this feels
> like a strange and uncomfortable time (trigger warnings, etc.). It's easy
> for anyone to jump to conclusions.
> >
> > I don't know anything about Saul's resources, but hopefully retirement
> will be good to him, even if it's been reached in a painful and stressful
> way.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:42 PM, John Muse <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Surprised that I haven’t read anything here on the recent news that Saul
> Levine "was pushed out of the Massachusetts College of Art and Design after
> administrators accused him of 'harming students' by showing his film Notes
> After Long Silence, 1989, to his senior thesis class.”
> >
> > Here are a few resources:
> >
> > Saul’s original post detailing his decision to “[retire] from MassArt,”
> as he says, and his reasons: https://www.facebook.com/
> story.php?story_fbid=10215932754649479&id=1165322620
> >
> > The Artforum article: https://www.artforum.com/news/
> filmmaker-saul-levine-leaves-massart-following-dispute-over-artwork-74844
> >
> > Indiewire article: http://www.indiewire.com/2018/
> 03/saul-levine-mass-art-notes-after-long-silence-1201945678/
> >
> > Saul’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/saullevine
> >
> > Films mentioned in the Artforum article include "Notes After a Long
> Silence" https://vimeo.com/73242778 and “The Big Stick / An Old Reel”
> https://vimeo.com/89886468
> >
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