Dr. Walley,

I can not help with regard to the question, where did 7360 Sukiyaki premier?
However I have uploaded to Vimeo an audio recording of Tony's projection / 
performance
at Millennium Film Workshop on 6-15-74 
which may be of interest to you, your research associate or others on this list.

https://vimeo.com/257530075 <https://vimeo.com/257530075>

This recording includes:

 Film Feedback

  Projection of film that has been subjected to hammering, reassembled.

  Projection of films subjected to electrocution
  
  Projection of curried film.
  ( Curry by Marian Zazeela)

  Projection of creoled film stock

 7360 Deep Fried - to be looked at sans projection

 Discussion of film pickling, film as a culinary ingredient
 “film material behaves more or less like onions”

7360 Sukiyaki

Q & A

Power to the people,

David


> On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Walley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, d.olivier, for that perspective. I remember Tony telling me 
> something similar about cost, specifically that he had a notion of scale 
> where the cooked, etc. films could be made for the cost of a lunch. 
> 
> You’re right about the missing scholarship on Tony’s video and public access 
> work. A million years ago I did a very little bit of work on it, which was 
> included in my dissertation but never made it any further. 
> 
> The only works I know of during this period that could genuinely be 
> characterized as being “performances about projection” are Sukiyaki, Bowed 
> Film, and Film Feedback (of course, it depends upon how elastic Tony’s 
> definition of “performance” is, but still…). So I’m even more (reasonably) 
> confident that Sukiyaki began its life at Antioch. [Interesting side note, 
> the “premiere” date Tony listed for Sukiyaki in the MFJ article - 12/17/73 - 
> was the same day that Antioch announced the firing of a couple dozen teaching 
> faculty because the college was in dire financial straits. I have to guess 
> that this included Tony, who moved on to Binghamton the following spring.] 
> 
> Thanks again - if anyone else has clues for the great 7360 Sukiyaki 
> investigation, chime in. 
> 
> Best,
> JW
> 
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, d. olivier delrieu-schulze 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Tony talked about doing a performance of “film projection” at Antioch.  He 
>> also said that his pickled films and cooked films were a response to being 
>> criticized by other makers at Antioch.  Primarily for making work that 
>> wasn’t directly engaging with social justice issues.  That film was 
>> expensive and to make work that didn’t directly address isssues like poverty 
>> was irresponsible.
>> 
>> So.  In t0ny’s positively spiteful way he said “fine I’ll just use scraps of 
>> film and pickle them! That costs almost nothing!”
>> 
>> It’s not a surprise that there isn’t a clear record as Antioch went through 
>> a lot of changes since then.
>> 
>> This incidence along with the video activism/public access work, I think, 
>> shows a significant shift of tony’s work pre/during/post Antioch.  This is 
>> glaringly absent from most of the scholarship about Tony’s work.
>> 
>> -d.olivier 
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:17 PM Jonathan Walley <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hello Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I have a question about Tony Conrad’s performance 7360 Sukiyaki, which I’m 
>> asking on behalf of another researcher. It’s a simple question, really, but 
>> has become quite the little puzzle. 
>> 
>> The question is where the work was “premiered.” In an essay he wrote for MFJ 
>> called “Is This Penny Ante or a High Stakes Game?”, Tony listed three 
>> performance dates for the work: December 17, 1973, April 27, 1974, and June 
>> 15, 1974. The latter two dates I have been able to nail down: The Walker Art 
>> Center and the Millennium. That leaves the December 17, ’73 date, apparently 
>> the premiere. My educated guess is that this took place at Antioch, which 
>> Tony was teaching at the time (he left shortly after to teach at Binghamton, 
>> then, of course, SUNY Buffalo). The researcher I’ve been talking to has not 
>> been able to find anything about a performance at Antioch (my guess is that 
>> it was a very low-key affair, possibly connected with a class, as was Film 
>> Feedback); she is trying to eliminate Anthology or any other NY venue as a 
>> possible site of the premiere. She’s even contacted the archivist at Antioch 
>> and gotten more-or-less a non-responsive response. 
>> 
>> Any ideas? I know it’s a lot of verbiage for what seems like a tiny 
>> question, but since I’ve spent a few days figuring out the other dates and 
>> sort of mapping Tony’s travels between 1972 and 1975, I’ve developed an 
>> obsession with answering this question. Not that it would be the end of the 
>> world if I didn’t (especially since it’s not even my research project). 
>> 
>> Related to this: I have not been able to determine when/where/by whom this 
>> photo was taken: 
>> https://yswriting.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/tony-conrad-critical-audiovisions/
>>  
>> <https://yswriting.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/tony-conrad-critical-audiovisions/>
>> 
>> I’m quite sure it’s not the Walker Art Center, but beyond that I’m clueless. 
>> 
>> Thanks everyone!
>> JW
>> 
>> Dr. Jonathan Walley
>> Associate Professor and Chair
>> Department of Cinema
>> Denison University
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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