Thank you, this is useful information! Yes, I have been using the third-party fluidsynth for Max (cycling74). The tuning-keys command has been working until recently, and I now know that this was implemented by Ircam. If it’s straight forward to do, I’ll put on the wishlist that you include the Ircam implementation of tuning-keys in future versions. Now I should soon leave this list and find a way to sort this out myself.
I did, by the way, also try to contact you a year ago about this, by writing to fluid-dev-ow...@nongnu.org . Element Green responded that he is not involved in fluidsynth any more. The same thing happened when I tired again this year. So if you update the owner, it may be easier to contact you in the future. Best Ruben Gjertsen > 23. feb. 2021 kl. 18.00 skrev fluid-dev-requ...@nongnu.org: > > Send fluid-dev mailing list submissions to > fluid-dev@nongnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fluid-dev-requ...@nongnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fluid-dev-ow...@nongnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fluid-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth (Ruben Gjertsen) > 2. Re: Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth (Marcus Weseloh) > 3. Re: Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth (Tom M.) > 4. Re: Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth (Marcus Weseloh) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 13:53:00 +0100 > From: Ruben Gjertsen <rubengjert...@gmail.com> > To: fluid-dev@nongnu.org > Subject: [fluid-dev] Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth > Message-ID: <4442e995-db80-459f-9221-afb1c4016...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello, > > I tried to write an e-mail to: > fluid-dev-ow...@nongnu.org <mailto:fluid-dev-ow...@nongnu.org> > This did not reach the reach person, so I’m trying again, to this list: > > Hello, > > I’m have been using fluidsynth a indirectly, through externals for Max on > Mac. Fluidsynth have been very important for 2 apps for experimenting with > microtonal tuning: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/microtonalorgan/ > <https://sourceforge.net/projects/microtonalorgan/> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/r-udp-player/ > <https://sourceforge.net/projects/r-udp-player/> > > But, in the latest 64-bit Max external, the command 'tuning-keys' has stopped > working as before. This was to me a very important feature, as you may define > a non-standard tuning for every single note on the keyboard, and even > continous interpolations between tuning systems, as a stepwise glissando. > This effect is more complex than using pitchbend on all keys at once in the > same direction, and I have based pieces on it. > > Did you remove this function, and could you consider bringing it back? This > could then eventually spread to a new Max external which allows me to > continue using my instrument on new computers. As I have nothing to do with > the development of the Max external, I do not have insights in where the > changes have happened. > > And if 'tuning-keys' is still available, but in a different syntax, I would > be interested in seeing some documentation. Then perhaps minor adjustments > could fix my instruments. > > Best, > Ruben Gjertsen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/fluid-dev/attachments/20210223/6b0fe45f/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 14:18:52 +0100 > From: Marcus Weseloh <mar...@weseloh.cc> > To: FluidSynth mailing list <fluid-dev@nongnu.org> > Subject: Re: [fluid-dev] Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth > Message-ID: > <cagnolao1iavwdayf6vpzwsknzlbfot17q9fp3ikl5ubejez...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Ruben, > > please give us a little more information about the problem, otherwise > it is difficult for us to help you solve it. > > What exactly does it mean that it has "stopped working"? > Do you have any error messages we could look at? > Which version of FluidSynth works and which doesn't? > And what exactly is a "Max external" and where did you get it from? > > Cheers > Marcus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:31:09 +0100 > From: "Tom M." <tom.m...@googlemail.com> > To: FluidSynth mailing list <fluid-dev@nongnu.org>, Marcus Weseloh > <mar...@weseloh.cc> > Cc: rubengjert...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [fluid-dev] Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth > Message-ID: > <CADHnbahfnZnW9R8+RRwwSpGL_n3ddpRYibdMOEWn=bzr65t...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ruben is probably referring to fluidmax a binding for Max/MSP that we used > to ship with the source code up until 1.1.11. I removed that binding from > the codebase in June 2018 because > > * it hasn't received any code changes since 2009, > * it used functions from private fluidsynth headers, and > * I really don't think it is fluidsynth's job to maintain bindings to > various applications out there. > > The fact that now, more than 2.5 years later someone finally complains, > confirms to me that this binding isn't cared about much. > > My best guess is that Ruben kept using fluidsynth 1.x, now he upgraded to > 2.x and, expectedly, it doesn't work anymore. > > If somebody is willing to maintain this binding, just grep the source code > from back then, adopt it to fluidsynth's current API, get rid of all > private headers, internal functions, etc., and put that binding in some > repository ideally with CI pipelines for Win + Mac. > > P.S.: That 'tuning-keys' command has always been commented out, because > it's lacking an implementation. I don't see how this could have ever > worked: > https://github.com/FluidSynth/fluidsynth/blob/v1.1.11/bindings/fluidmax/fluidmax.c#L1619 > > Tom > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/fluid-dev/attachments/20210223/6eaf4a8a/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:57:21 +0100 > From: Marcus Weseloh <mar...@weseloh.cc> > To: "Tom M." <tom.m...@googlemail.com> > Cc: FluidSynth mailing list <fluid-dev@nongnu.org>, > rubengjert...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [fluid-dev] Tuning-keys in recent version of fluidsynth > Message-ID: > <cagnolamjgcvzjmbxymmyvn_ora2em8fztcqq3en3v4gwazq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I see. thanks. > > There seems to be a fluidsynth MAX/MSP plugin that is a little newer > and with a working tuning-keys command: > https://forge.ircam.fr/p/fluidsynth4max/source/tree/master/src/fluidmax.c > > So if there is somebody willing to maintain that binding, that would > maybe be a better starting point. > > Cheers > Marcus > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > fluid-dev mailing list > fluid-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-dev > > > ------------------------------ > > End of fluid-dev Digest, Vol 211, Issue 6 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ fluid-dev mailing list fluid-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-dev
