Thanks Garth, that's all very useful information and helpful. On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Garth Hjelte <ga...@chickensys.com> wrote:
> At 11:42 PM 12/8/2015, you wrote: > > >What I'm trying to do is to interactively synthesize some > musician-composed tracks in my program using FluidSynth. > >These tracks have been provided to me as MIDI files with the names of > Native Instruments Komplete and Logic X instruments. > >As far as I can tell, both Komplete and Logic X use their own > sample/patch format, not Soundfont 2. > >Given this, what's my best option for recreating the tracks using > FluidSynth? > >Is it is somehow convert Komplete and Logic X patches to Soundfont 2 > format? If so, how do I do this? > >Or should I just try to find Soundfont 2 patches that are as similar as > possible to the original instruments used? If so, are there any Soundfont > libraries that map to Komplete and/or Logic X libraries? > > >This is not quite fluidsynth related issue but MIDI sequencing issue. > There is no way to "convert" MIDI files optimized for one patch. Depends on > the characteristics of the optimized patch being used, the differences vary. > > Since FluidSynth uses only SoundFonts, it IS a topic very much dealing > with FluidSynth. The poster wasn't asking to convert the MIDI files to > SoundFonts, he wanted to know if he should convert the Instruments so-named > (I assume he has them or has access to them) to SoundFonts or if he should > use replacement instruments. > > To answer the question: Komplete actually is a suite of different playback > engines, and in context so is Logic X. There's really no such thing as > "Komplete patches" or "Logic X patches". The named patches could be > referring to any one of those instruments, but since you asked about > SoundFont, I'll assume the referred Komplete ones are Kontakt instruments > and the referred Logic X ones are EXS instruments (both being members of > those suites). (But they may not be.) > > With my product Translator www.chickensys.com, you can convert the EXS > files to SoundFont, and you can with Kontakt to SoundFont ONLY if it's an > older version of Komplete. If your Komplete contains Kontakt 5, you can't, > because Native Instruments chose to lock up (encrypt) the factory libraries > so it could only be used in Kontakt. > > However, Translator DOES have a autosampler, so you could use that to get > the instruments either in Komplete or Logic X - and that goes for ANY of > the instruments aside from Kontakt or EXS - it's not a perfect solution but > it's really close. If you MIDI's have lots of controller information you'll > have to reprogram that in the new autosampled instruments. > > Translator does do an admirable and accurate job converting these things > to SoundFont. SoundFont in some ways is more capable than EXS, but Kontakt > has more chance of exceeding SoundFonts capability. Still SoundFont is an > excellent container for the basic parameters (tuning, loops, envelopes, > etc.) and it may work very well for you. > > But Instrument-replacement may be good to; and it's a probably simpler and > easier route to go. Use good SoundFonts though - the GM stuff and small > chincy things are just toys. There are high-quality SoundFonts out there. > And even in this case, if you find quality instruments in another format, > Translator can usually convert them to SoundFont for use in FluidSynth. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User > > > _______________________________________________ > fluid-dev mailing list > fluid-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-dev >
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