> So it will hopefully be fixed soon. What's is soon? 6 weeks, 12, 18, ...? I thinks that it's no sense
> From https://groups.google.com/d/msg/firebug/NujWavcUpwk/7u8U9c-0AAAJ > From my experience they mostly listen to their users. Wow! Whats about Unsigned Add-ons? Whats about Australis? Whats about "remove version information in the Firefox add-on manager" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1175324 IMO they don't listen to their users. > Groups are not collapsible...Firefox 53.0a1 Another one. Release date from Firefox 53 is 2017-04-18 (https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar). Several years later > General complaints like this one don't help anybody. You are right, but Mozilla does not want my help >either users start switching over to the Firefox DevTools or to the Chrome DevTools. That's the point. Chrome DevTools is better than Firefox DevTools. More things: Mozilla will remove XUL and XPCOM support . https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-developing-firefox-add-ons/ and Mozilla will look more and more like Chrome, ... Mozilla has lost their mind. Sorry for this complaint, you aren't responsible of this crazy decisions El jueves, 17 de noviembre de 2016, 18:02:56 (UTC+1), Sebastian Zartner escribió: > > On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:04:08 PM UTC+1, David Gomez wrote: >> >> > Is available as "Scratchpad" >>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Fdocs%2FTools%2FScratchpad&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG_SPBx_fPO_OMviiSV8yfNzDnXVA> >>> . >>> >> The firebug console is much more comfortable, I do not think it's a >> replacement >> > > I agree that Firebug's Command Editor UI is better in several ways, though > Scratchpad is usable. I think there was some request for a "multi-line > command line" like in Firebug, though I can't find it right now. > > >> > firequery >> It does not work and nobody is interested in fixing it: >> https://github.com/firebug/firequery/issues/39 >> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ffirebug%2Ffirequery%2Fissues%2F39&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH6hUPOLTz8U3z1hwy2DqCqxZzpmA> >> > > I didn't try it myself lately, though one of the bugs linked in the issue > is already fixed and the other one is assigned. So it will hopefully be > fixed soon. > > >> >Events can be displayed... >> Firebug is more comfortable >> > > Yes it is, that's why an *Events* side panel was requested. Non-the-less, > the tooltip, which opens when you click the icon shows the related events > (even jQuery events like in Firebug). > > >console.group. Works the same as in Firebug >> No, they do not work the same. Groups are not collapsible. >> > > Groups are not collapsible in the stable release (Firefox 50.0), though in > Nightly (Firefox 53.0a1) they are. But, of course, it's somewhat poor that > they were initially implemented without being collapsible. > > >> The console has become unusable >> > > General complaints like this one don't help anybody. You should tell the > DevTools people what needs to be improved to make it usable for you. > > >> There are many, many more differences... >> > > Sure, and I and others already filed a lot of those > <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=1096294%2C1240494%2C915444%2C812613%2C1204484%2C1095521%2C1004480%2C1258571%2C1184192%2C1116714%2C895880%2C870220%2C1026047%2C1253868%2C1122335%2C1225459%2C1185293%2C992521%2C672733%2C1017897%2C1253640%2C1108695%2C991745%2C1185527%2C1256658%2C1164776%2C1259060%2C804772%2C1182013%2C1245961%2C1006508%2C593460%2C871510%2C795917%2C1032855%2C1174095%2C1257833%2C871985%2C1211525%2C1154363%2C1037519%2C764958%2C1236283%2C1267140%2C1099234%2C1050190%2C1122364%2C861335%2C979056%2C925269%2C1150715%2C1165138%2C1006899%2C868382%2C970517%2C1050285%2C859311%2C1153625%2C1185144%2C1020244%2C1031194%2C1258154%2C1007027%2C1168872%2C862341%2C1005825%2C820878%2C1208544%2C1270025%2C1240196%2C1017515%2C1245365%2C1204481%2C1181100%2C1197789%2C1164882%2C966895%2C1163024%2C1241884%2C717235%2C1229773%2C909754%2C719848%2C797876%2C881370%2C1059312%2C994559%2C1267238%2C1302556%2C1238881%2C1267226%2C1243851%2C859045%2C994055%2C1187582%2C815464%2C717749%2C1290437%2C859057%2C1164883%2C1210375%2C1267144%2C986717%2C1112465%2C814497%2C946800%2C1004511%2C1002041%2C1259390%2C1284012%2C1287172%2C1143286%2C1262793%2C575675%2C1171654%2C1224765%2C1020291%2C1227054%2C946797%2C1302361%2C1167080%2C1145049%2C832983%2C1126562%2C1004527%2C1097991%2C1295729%2C1034015%2C992947%2C993445%2C940950%2C738841%2C830822%2C1164880%2C1046732%2C37468%2C1164157%2C950448%2C1122246%2C934744%2C1208864%2C1255975%2C941287%2C1157048%2C1079195%2C1024428%2C1001378%2C1144820%2C1159078%2C1258231%2C1174100%2C928008%2C992679%2C967493%2C728086%2C1108212%2C924692%2C1006870%2C1254230%2C1050691%2C1257613%2C966468%2C1178218%2C859058%2C1247065%2C1267234%2C895893%2C1017512%2C1280024%2C1302363%2C1161072%2C1145669%2C747926%2C901250%2C970383%2C1232842%2C1164285%2C895887%2C1249627%2C1122833%2C1173504%2C918710%2C1255976%2C950046%2C1258569%2C1184172%2C1277828%2C1237253%2C1135635%2C1167174%2C922146%2C976325%2C986767%2C1267293%2C1165010%2C983600%2C993416%2C1201475%2C850068%2C993014%2C884125%2C1200104%2C859042%2C1200857%2C1202254%2C1004678%2C922221%2C777674%2C749039%2C1133849%2C1232727%2C821610%2C1004535%2C911209%2C983473%2C1026125%2C1096575%2C966912%2C1164195%2C716647%2C704094%2C1150717%2C997198%2C1139794%2C736733%2C1060925%2C963879%2C1102906%2C1158144%2C1218195%2C727921%2C653545%2C1005458%2C1067323%2C835896%2C996422%2C830828%2C972655%2C342259%2C1145781%2C923724%2C728190%2C1164213%2C1204564%2C1226566%2C1137285%2C994729%2C861469%2C986467%2C920141%2C1122768%2C921102%2C1064458%2C1155077%2C732087%2C723313%2C228205%2C1138243%2C1249714%2C997092%2C962627%2C1258570%2C1162961%2C1061509%2C1226640%2C1233325%2C1246087%2C991810%2C998933%2C1297466%2C1179070%2C1034110%2C973889%2C1167181%2C1067318%2C965872%2C830818%2C738846%2C642471%2C1166774%2C1011745%2C989509%2C1014547%2C1022741%2C1247434%2C1309243%2C977128%2C985597%2C1158046%2C1149634%2C1177463%2C911678%2C1152276%2C1159725%2C1149346%2C873443%2C1141312%2C703031%2C1225514%2C1152279%2C892935%2C1247515%2C1056841%2C1269704%2C1024693%2C1038964%2C1029451%2C493414%2C970246%2C1034349%2C1082899%2C1007949%2C1316528%2C1195707%2C930631%2C1001222%2C1164210%2C966896%2C1157456%2C1226637%2C1270015%2C1249715%2C994555%2C1228689%2C653528%2C912057%2C1189829&list_id=13314946&query_format=advanced&query_based_on=&columnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Ccf_tracking_firefox_relnote%2Creporter> > > against bug 991806 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991806>. > > >> >Firebug Working Group didn't have the resources... >> >> Yes I know. But the solution I think is to make the team bigger, but it >> was decided to start a new project, and that's the problem. >> > > I'm not happy about Mozilla's decision to create a separate set of tools > instead of putting more resources into the Firebug project. That decision > had advantages and disadvantages. Anyway, it can't be changed now. > > There are a lot of people now trying to make Firebug work because the >> DevTools are not a valid replacement >> > > And I am trying to help people to do so. Though again, this won't work > forever, because Firebug doesn't work anymore once multi-process Firefox is > enabled. > > Firebug is an open source project and lived from contributions by > volunteers. Unfortunately, while Firebug had and still has a huge community > of users, there was only a handful of people contributing to the project. > > Anyway, as it stands now, the Firebug as extension is discontinued. So, > either users start switching over to the Firefox DevTools or to the Chrome > DevTools. > Of course, Firebug is still open source, so if someone wanted to revive > it, nobody would stop them to do so. Though I believe at this point it > makes more sense to put the efforts into the DevTools and try to make their > usability as good as Firebug's. > > Sebastian > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/firebug. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/firebug/65c19576-5d50-40c1-b8d2-e08d9f856296%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
