On 11/08/2025 21:43, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi Lynne
On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 09:22:26PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
Recently, the issue of plugins was raised.
Michael pushed a patch to enable out of tree branches to be freely added to
FFmpeg. I did not very much like the option of having officially-endorsed
source plugins, as to me, it moved all the burden of maintenance to FFmpeg
maintainers.
The commit was reverted, with the tentative agreement to open a discussion
on the nature of plugins we would like to have.
You force pushed the revert with standing objections 12 minutes
after a "binary choice" you created.
And without warning that you would push something
I think I was being very clear.
Your motive for pushing a huge project policy change that affected all
maintainers after hardly a day of review was less clear.
> <Lynne> for a third time, I am really not comfortable with this
> mechanism being open, nor being merged after barely a day. I would
> like to know whether you want to approve this temporary revert, after
> which we can discuss this on the mailing list, or would like to accept
> my addition of this being only available for official repositories.>
<michaelni> We can discuss, that was my suggestion, theres no plugin
from a non ffmpeg developer, not one so also not one with dlopen and
none hiding dlopen and none breaking contract
<Lynne> okay, so option 1?
[13:48] <Lynne> its a binary choice.You said you wanted a discussion, which I took as agreement to my
response, and now you have an actual discussion on this project-wide
policy change.
We are all very busy volunteers. Asking us to periodically inspect all
projects included as source plugins for LGPL/GPL violations after an
unreviewed policy change by a single maintainer is overtly wrong.
I know you have a position that's more favorable towards plugins, and
that this was a step towards that. But to me, this was by far the worst
type of compromise.
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