Hi, Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 15.24.38 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg- devel a écrit : > >>> Why should it be via SPI? What's the benefit of that hypothetical future additional funding going via SPI, as opposed to: > >> obviously transparency and community control. None of which is given by > >> the options you list.> > > Do you want transparency there? This is *not* about having open source > > code and the public code review.
> Yes, absolutely. We are an *open* project. This is about the funding organisation(s) and the recipient developer(s) in need of sustainable funding. While my income is public (if you know where to look), I sincerely doubt that many people *here* would want theirs published. I rather think that they would see it as a major intrusion to their privacy. I too prefer standard specifications and source code open, but this is about people's personal information, not source code. Whether you like it or not, that really is a *downside* of going through the mailing list or the GA, simply because it is a major turn-off. If SPI requires going through the mailing list, then that is also a downside of going through SPI. > > Using SPI money would hypothetically be an option if there was enough > > money. Currently there is not. > There is enough budget to fund several of the smaller tasks Michael > proposed. But that has nothing to do with building a sustainable OSS development ecosystem. Funding small tasks is great to get students to work their summer on FFmpeg rather than writing proprietary business code at a local web company (at least if you have willing mentors). But Michael specifically framed this "financial sustainability plan" for grown- up adult "developers [who] no longer live with their parents". It is *not* sustainable to fund them with 5000€ bounties. At that point in our lives, most people would need somewhat stable income, both for financial and psychological well-being. If you have a credible plan for SPI to get enough income to provide that kind of stable income to even one developer, then by all mean, lets see that plan. But I don't see it. Offering bounties is a complete waste of time and money in this regard (it might be a good idea for other purposes, but that's a different discussion). > >>> That's the part that you'd need to clarify first. What relevant flashy > >>> cool development will attract those donations? Why should they be > >>> funded by donations rather than more traditional business transactions? > >> Hen & egg. > > > > What? Why do you need to start spending money before you can have ideas of > > cool projects? That makes zero sense to me. > What? Michael asked specifically to propose cool projects. And I asked why it would be better to fund those hypothetical projects through SPI rather than privately and directly. -- レミ・デニ-クールモン http://www.remlab.net/ _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list [email protected] https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email [email protected] with subject "unsubscribe".
